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        For everyone who doesn’t know. An anecdotal summary (look up yourself for facts, i am just recalling from memory)

        Irans democratic elected ruler tried to nationalise the oil industry which was largely controlled by the UK and US who then staged a coup to reinstate and support the monarchy in return for securing them that control.

        This made a lot of people in Iran very angry with the West.

        That monarch went kinda mad with oppressive power to the point that the clergy was the only real opposition left. Which created the conditions that started the islamic revolution.

        And we seemingly learned nothing as one of the Trump regime early ideas for the current war with Iran was to reinstate and back the monarchy with the current last descendant living in the US.

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          the general populous never learns anything, like ever. only time they do is when mass violence and chaos happens and then even sometime they forget. and no, you and i are not above making this mistake either.

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          Most of these pictures that show Iran before the revolution also show upper class citizens. The most people, especially outside the big cities, lived in relative poverty. So it is like showing pictures of the Russian aristocracy before the revolution to show how good people had it under the Tsar.
          Don’t get me wrong, I’m in no way shape or form a fan of the Ajatollah regime but the picture is more complex and nuanced then many people think and just showing two pictures from before the revolution and now are misleading at best.

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            So, sort of like Washington D.C. urbanities and tourists vs. much of the overflight country.

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              Hell, DC in the tourist sense is only a small part of the city. You could just as easily make the companion to the Capitol area vs some neighborhood in the north part of the city.

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      [This image has been removed by the national security agency. Fear not for your safety, a team has been dispatched to apprehend the terrorist who posted it.]

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    Stranger things have happened. I could see a timeline that goes like:

    1. The election in 2028 is blatantly stolen by Republicans, establishing a mask-off dictatorship.

    2. After a decade, they’re eventually ousted by a popular front consisting of civil society advocates, leftist organizers and activists, and religious movements.

    3. As the regime falls, the religious movement takes over everything and establishes an overt theocracy.

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      Don’t worry! They don’t need to “steal” elections, why would they? It’s not as if the Democrats will reverse anything, they’re all making a fortune. Remember Biden’s presidency?

      If Republicans seized power, that would be a fatal mistake (and they know it). I pray to God that I’m wrong and you’re right, and that they do seize power, because that will be the end of this charade. If only

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    It’s important to remember that these aren’t average US citizens. These are only those wealthy enough to travel across the large country and take a vacation.

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      Do…do most Americans never get to see their capital? Most people I know have been to the capital of my country at least once.

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        The USA is huge. IDK what country you’re from, but I’ll use France as a point of comparison because it’s large and the capital isn’t really in the center.

        Bayonne->Paris is about the farthest you can be from the capital while still living in mainland France. That’s 770 km.

        This is shorter than the distance from Washington DC->Atlanta, which is in one of the original 13 colonies. It’s pretty close to the distance from DC->Indianapolis, but that’s still within the 1776 USA borders (albeit, an unorganized territory of the 13 colonies).

        Add in the Louisiana purchase and various conquests westward, and a Californian visiting DC can be like visiting Paris from Kuwait.

        It’s reasonably common for USians to visit their state capital at some point in our lives, but visiting DC is definitely an upper-middle class vacation unless you happen to live in a nearby state already.

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        It’s at least 3000 miles from the West Coast to the capital. Unless you’re Russian, it’s hard to compare

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        It’s several hundred dollars just to get there from the west coast. Many Americans do not have 800 dollars they can throw at a vacation.

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        Correct. Most can’t travel to another state. We are more or less enslaved. Vacation doesn’t exist. Housing isn’t available. You’d be better off living in mexico, trust me.

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        Downside of the cost of living and size of the country. You actually are very lucky if you can travel.

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            Time is money here in the states. I can’t pay rent for an apartment full of my stuff if I’m traveling and not working. To go away for one week I need at least 2 weeks of pay saved up. I’ve had the privilege of traveling before and am saving for another time in the future but the fact I can save at all is because of a series of lucky breaks.

            Also I have terrible credit so no one will ever give me a cc that isn’t a horrible deal (400ish) and if something goes wrong and I’m stranded what then? I know I’m not alone in this.

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              if something goes wrong and I’m stranded what then? I know I’m not alone in this.

              seriously. i don’t want to have to go knock the door of [church what done me and mine wrong] and beg for help. i know i can find folk in it who would, but like i worked in homelessness services and there are areas of the country where if you don’t wear a cross and praise jesus you’re fucked.

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            There are large areas of the US where simply taking a bus is impossible without also having to drive a long distance to the nearest station. There’s also the fact that it’s a pretty sizable country, so someone in SoCal or thereabouts is looking at a multi-day trip if they’re not flying, which then adds the cost of hotels, cabs to/from the hotel if the stop has no transit nearby, etc.

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        Ive been there only once and I live only like 4 hours away. Most people of they arent in the area around Maryland, Virginia, Delaware, Pennsylvania, New Jersey or new york USUALLY never visit. The further you are away the less likely you are to travel there. Usually DC is a day trip for those that live close, otherwise you then have to add plane tickets and hotels to your trip and that becomes prohibitively expensive for many Americans.

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        I can’t justify the gas cost to drive as far as my state capital, let alone travel all the way across the country to Washington DC. Not that I could even fly there since I’m not willing/able to get the fancy ID needed to get on a plane and leave my state.

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        I’m in TX. For me, it would be 21 hours of driving assuming no traffic or stops. Given gas prices, it would be cheaper to fly. And given the price of flights, if I’m splurging on plane tickets, I’m probably going somewhere pleasant to be so I can ease my poor mind from the constant flood of cortisol that is modern life—DC is a place that will bring only resentment and misery.

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        I can’t speak for “most Americans”, my income is pretty median but I highly value travel and tourism so I make it happen from time to time. If you like parks and museums there is a shit-ton to do in and around DC, and it doesn’t have to be any more expensive nor unsafe than visiting any other urban cultural center like NYC or Miami.

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          I had time to visit two museums while i was there: the Air and Space Museum (which was surprisingly dissappointing. OMSI up in Portland, Oregon had had most of the same exhibits and presented them in a more dynamic manner, but the Smithsonian was definitely still worth the time) and the National Art Gallery (I liked the sculpture garden and the impressionist exhibit they had the most. If you don’t know what to do in an art museum, pick your favorite piece of art in every room. then figure out why it’s your favorite. it’s a really fun game). I would love two weeks of free time to explore DC but like, life.

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    Fascists don’t do revolutions, they do coups or takeovers. Revolutions advance society, fascists only regress it.

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      dude the French Revolution eventually advanced society, but that’s because it resulted in Napoleon twice somehow (an Emperor, worse than a King, because he wanted to take shit over) and all of Europe had to band together to kick his ass to Elba.

      the advancement came when all of europe was banding together.

      uh, i study american history why

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        The French Revolution advanced the idea that property could be owned by anybody and you didn’t have to be “nobility” to have power in society. Pretty frickin huge stuff.

        As for Napoleon, his civil laws were extremely progressive for the time. There is a reason that he was beloved by basically everybody in France. In the context of chaos of the Republic, and the tyranny of the Kings before that, most people were relieved by the stability he brought, and ecstatic with the reforms enacted. He obviously wasn’t perfect (especially his abhorrent treatment of Haiti), but Napoleon was a hero of history. It’s all about context.

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          eventually the french revolution advanced that idea. the first one (there were more than one) just killed a lot of people.

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            It also ended the church ownership of most of the farmland for good. It gave the people the idea and an example of how to overthrow their oppressors.
            The revolutionary times were chaotic and bloody and paved the way for Napoleon, the real culprit if you are talking about bloodshed, but it was also a huge leap forward on the way to a more free, open and equal society.

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    Pictured: A brave US army patriot, personally wading out into the reflecting pool to strangle a trespassing radical leftist

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      It is reflecting the blue sky, as it was designed to do.

      Painting the bottom blue so algae would form and ruin the reflective properties of the reflecting pool broke it.

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        What was it previously? Concrete or painted a different colour? I don’t know much about it, only it’s in US movies all the time.

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          It has changed over the years, but was bare concrete when dumbass decided to ruin it because he doesn’t understand anything.

          I had visited it well before it was changed to concrete so I checked wikipedia for the dates.

          The pool was originally built with a bottom of asphalt and tile, and was supplied from the city’s drinking water supply. Starting in 2009, the bottom was replaced with concrete slabs supported by timber pilings,and was supplied with a system of circulating water from the Tidal Basin.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial_Reflecting_Pool

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    Imagine literally being the fascist who tells everyone to get out of the pool (for reasons).

    Or you know what, don’t, your sanity is too valuable.

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        The British have always based their government on a similar mechanism, despite the occasional protest:

        “Listen: strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical aquatic ceremony.”

        It doesn’t work with bicycles either.

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    Funny how it looks normal and care-free like Germany in the 1920s, and how it looks like Germany in the mid 1930s now. I wonder why…

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      Germany in the 1920s

      You mean two years after they lost a war? Yeah, very care-free