What a fucking loser
So beards aren’t masculine enough for “warriors” now? They keep narrowing this bizarre definition.
in this context he ment black men allowed to wear beards to prevent medical issues. he means the hard R
primarly its hurts african americans, because they are prone to pseudofolliculitis from shaving.
I expect he’d prefer no body hair at all.
No bears allowed, only Twunks.
Are there any queers in the
theaterarmy tonight?
Get them up against the wall
There’s one in the spotlight, he don’t look right to me
Get him up against the wall
That one looks Jewish!
And that one’s a coon!
Who let all of this riff-raff into the room?
There’s one smoking a joint!
And another with spots!
If I had my way
I’d have all of you shot!The fuck is a beardo?
It’s a wild thing. So the term grew out of the manosphere actually, it was mainly a term for present fathers who steered their boys away from that garbage because they recognized it was only going to hurt them. It kind of grew from there to encapsulate everything they hate. Now, they associate beards with hipsters, dads, LGBT+, nerds who like games, music, books, theatre, and basically any man with a soul and two brain cells to rub together, which is precisely who they see as the enemy because they’re so transparently evil.
So basically a wholesome father with a big bushy beard.
Exactly. They’ve been working real hard to make it about gas masks in the military, which is a thing, but that’s not why they’re going off about it. “Beardos and Weirdos” specifically is a dog-whistle for men who actually have honestly held values, don’t consider sex, violence, and substance abuse the point of life, and try to be a mentor, a partner, a part of a community or who otherwise contradicts their narrow, machismo-laced, lecherous and reductive definition of “Man.”
Look here now, a man can enjoy sex, violence, and substance abuse(not necessarily in that order) a whole lot without it becoming a part of their personality. Plenty of us are happy to be degenerates in private
No it’s just a racist dog whistle. By far the group that gets the most facial hair waivers in the military are black men. They just don’t want blacks in the military anymore.
To explain the facial hair wavers to my fellow straight-hair-phenotypes: forcing to shave too closely, can lead to really big, painful infections and scars from ingrown hairs if you have curly-phenotype hair.
You can shave close enough for a gas mask to work, but in an organization that had its rules build around the bodily and cultural “normal” of white people, you might still need a facial hair waver.
Yeah the waivers are definitely a good thing. Black men often have very coarse, tightly wound facial hair. Some of the dudes I served with would get the worst ingrowns and without a waiver they’d still have to just shave over them, causing nasty sores.
Oh ya I get it, just wanted to shorten your more complex definition for some folks. I can hardly comprehend the amount of fucking idiocy and blind hate occurring in the us gov right now. They shit all over the so-called values they very vaguely pretend to support.
Idk which they hate more: attentive loving husbands and fathers or people who actually use freedom
So like a normal guy then?
I wish
Username checks…
GreenBeardo!
Do you think his beard is green or is he a green person with a beard?
Holy shit I’m inadvertently outing myself as giving a shit about people.
Damn, and here I was thinking it was about no-shave chits (which has racial undertones, because black men are more prone to razorbumps (basically ingrown hairs which can be extremely painful)).
I mean, it’s the US, you dig into anything deep enough and you can find racist undertones, because American society is built on racism. That said the particular phrase “Beardos and Weirdos” did in fact evolve out of the manosphere to describe any man of any race who didn’t fall in line with them ideologically. Like so much of what they do, it just happens to also particularly disadvantage black men by virtue of their ideal being grounded in “whiteness.”
Well I’m saying that in the military context specifically, it’s well-known that the vast majority of shave-chit holders (i.e., people who can have beards) are black men. There was a whole thing a few months ago when they banned shave-chits, and a large part of the discussion was how it would disproportionately affect black men, and how this is one part of a larger strategy to push black men out of the military.
So within that context, yes, this statement by Hegseth absolutely does carry racial undertones, and you don’t have to dig very deep to uncover that. It’s not a conjecture, that statement was thinly-veiled racism.
I’m not disagreeing. The policy itself is definitely an attack on black people. His choice of phrasing merely suggests he was trying to slur a lot of people, black people chief among them as usual.
Basically, the stereotypical image of the man they want to be little spoon for.
How Freudian of them
How active is this hegseth on 4chan? How come he knows this stuff but I don’t?
Because he’s an actual loser, not somebody like you just pretending to be uncool for internet cred.
Has anyone told them that they can take estrogen to lose those peaky beards?
Unfortunately it doesn’t work like that. The change to the follicles is permanent, one needs laser hair removal or electrolysis to destroy each one.
That’s not to say someone couldn’t tell them…
Specifically in the military it refers to those in favor of loosening facial hair standards beyond just tiny mustaches, plus some service members that discovered and successfully exploited the “Heathen loophole.”
Really it’s just Pete’s preference toward big burly white hairless men that will follow his commands.
A tiny mustache that fits under a gas mask 🤔
Fun fact: a full beard fits under a gas mask too.
Because technology has improved somewhat since 1945.
edit: wait that was another sex thing wasn’t it
I think it was a Hitler thing?
What’s the heathen loophole?
Beards are apparently a part of Heathen and Norse Pagan religion, so claiming the religion allowed them to grow and maintain a full beard as a religious exemption. That’s since gone away with Hegseth’s purge of almost all non-Abrahamic religions.
Everyone knew it was a loophole being exploited and not a bunch of people having spiritual awakenings all of a sudden. But a loophole is much more preferable to a Christian Nationalist leader determining what is and isn’t a valid religion.
Ok, yeah that makes a lot of sense. And yeah, when it comes to stuff like this you wind up in an awkward position where you have to allow loopholes to avoid prohibiting sincere religious convictions, especially among neopagans. Speaking as one, we’re eclectic in what we consider religious (for example I consider my being trans to have religious significance and if I were to file a first amendment complaint against restrictions on my hormones it would be entirely sincere)
I’m not even necessarily opposed to not giving facial hair/uniform passes to members of particularly disorganized religions. We aren’t like the Sikhs where it’s easy to see their conviction and there’s a continuous practice that can be pointed to. That said, first amendment complaints are first amendment complaints. Just because I think a compromise might be reasonable, doesn’t mean that’s in line with the law. Us pagans get fucked six ways to sunday on religious freedom and we do need to stand up and demand it apply to us.
First I’ve ever heard of it. I am in fact, a Dad with a beard lol.
Fucking wild. “What an unmasculine loser, he’s raising his children, that goes against my family values”.
People who didn’t use their disposable razor subscription scam
That’s me. I have a new term to call myself: Beardo
That really explains why chuds hate Kratos so much.
Great explanation. Ashamed to say I would have thought it was another term for ‘neckbeard’ judging only by the sound of it lol
I swear to god, it’s like they distilled Jon lajoie’s satire into modern standard
And my sexual performances are average!
yeah, I’d say they nailed it.
Show me your genitals!
Never been prouder to sport my beard.
Oh, the men who actually get laid. Couldn’t have that!
So basically they made up a made for the type of men who opposed their bullshit and moved their sons away from it and now the Head of the Defence department is using that exact language.
Fuck.
A beard or long hair for men has always been a sign of rejection of conforming to social authority.
Hair is the best symbol of rebellion as it is difficult to defect from, takes a long time to grow long, and is accessible to everyone. You can recognize a hippie with their tie-dye shirt and reflective sunglasses. They signal to themselves and others that they are opposed to the Vietnam war and the establishment in general. But when they go to the office, for a swim, to the gym, etc. they go back to conforming to the rest of society. The hippie with long hair is at all times signaling their rejection to the establishment and is also signaling that they have been rejecting this for many years. The hippie who only commits to the tie-dye shirt and sunglasses can take it off when under scrutiny and put it back on when convenient.
Hair has no nerve cells. Cutting hair is completely painles. If someone won’t even listen to authority telling them to cut their hair, what makes you think they’ll listen to authority for anything else? Long hair subconsciously scares authority because the legitimacy of said authority is constantly challenged. This is my hypothesis for why being clean shaven and short hair has become a requirement in many militaries, but never a militia. It is the easiest way to get someone to subconsciously be comfortable with submitting to authority.
Some examples of “beardos” who use their hair as a symbol of rebellion:
- Koreans during Japanese Imperialism
- The Khalsa
- Indian saints, regardless of religion
- Hippies in the US
- Brazilian communists during the dictatorship
Very true for many cultures. But it’s also important to understand that for many Native American men it’s rebellious in a very different way. Many tribes saw it as manly for a man to have long hair, and by growing it out it can be a rebellion against the demands of cultural surrender placed by white society
How is this rebellion in a different way? The Native American man keeping his hair long is the perfect example of him rejecting conformity to the standing social order, which is that of his colonizers.
I guess I was seeing your example as rejecting tradition, and this as embracing it
Rejecting tradition itself often becomes a tradition. And the cycle continues.
and is accessible to everyone
doubt
bald men can still grow a beard 😂
Jesus. Jesus was a beardo. A real socialist hippie kind of guy in sandals and robes and long hair and a beard.
I hear that guy did unto others as he would have them do unto him; disgusting!
To be fair, Jesus would only be useful in a military if he abandoned his principles and went Doctor Manhattan on everybody.
Nah, the guy who whipped money changers outside the temple and said “sell all your possessions and buy a sword to defend the poor” would do just fine. He was canonically into peace, but not pacifism
Well then maybe the “Christian” nationalist shouldn’t be running the Department of “War” preaching about filling the ranks with “Christian” warriors.
A person who has a big beard—o
In the military it was getting easy to get a shaving waiver for religious exemptions.
Hey, Pete, you know what happens when you decide to kick all those people out? You lose all the people running the cybersecurity division. Funny how that stuff works.
As the old saying goes. A plane crash returning from a furry convention would put the software and cybersecurity industries back decades.
Also, basically every other role that’s not basic infantry… including spec-ops who are allowed to have beards to operate clandestinely.
hesgeth got mad because he never was able to obtain ranger school because hes such a screwup, i heard it was unofficially required for his position when he was sitll in the military.
This thread brought me to a new thought. As with most essential parts of our government, maybe he is trying to push for privatizing the military. By firing top positions without reappointment and cancelling or delaying payment to labor, they create a volatile work environment. Spending increases on military does not go to our servicemen. Now attacking the people who want to serve is making their jobs near as unsafe as the frontline. This they hope will lead to low recruitment and retention, resulting in a need to hire more contractors.
He didnt say no furries although seems like the FBI is trying to attract them (and not knowing what a furry is)
hes kicking 20% of the top brass out too, all for putins benefit.
Oh I bet he has a response to that: “AI!” - poof problem solved. 'Murica’s safe.
Ugh I wish I was joking.
Yeah, and from what we’ve been seeing… AI… err… “SI”… has been doing more offensive action than defensive action…
The best their so-called SI could do for their defensive strategy would be to encrypt everything… and then being unable to get the data back…
Because when you are losing a war, the sort of facial hair you have really matters. Reality doesn’t back them up, so they have to go for crass appearance. Not “weak” my ass.
From memory the facial hair things isn’t really about appearance but a way to kick poc out.
The facial hair thing started before they really let African people into the army as a way to ensure a good gas mask seal during WW1. I think it’s a dumb rule enforced only for some amorphous idea of “discipline” nowadays, though.
But gas masks are still a thing in the military.
I don’t understand how ? can you elaborate ?
edit someone explained here :
https://lemmy.world/comment/26110187specifically african americans, they are prone to pseudofolliculitis.
Also trans women – notoriously amazing tech skills
OK but why you’re getting cucked in Iran?
He’s gotten too used to having his balls trampled.
And then he puts fucking Elon Fatty Musk wimpy nazi in charge. Yanks - please kick out this administration
I’m trying my best but I got little legs
Says the guy that has his own makeup people.
100% he creeps on them too
Anyone seen the video of this douche bag trying to do a workout with the army. By workout, I mean essentially calisthenics. The guy looks like an absolute moron with the side steps.
What really gets me about those clips is he posted them! This wasn’t some leaked video. He saw that and thought it looked badass.
I regularly ask myself how much they believe their own bullshit. For a long time I thought they didn’t but Hegseth might actually be that clueless.
I can’t upvote you enough. I actually thought that video was was a leak. I learned a lot today.
All I’m hearing is Pete can’t grow a beard and resents beards in others.
Is part of Hegseth’s mental health problems that he can’t grow a beard. It wouldn’t be the first time in history (Alexander the Great famously count grow a beard and forced his troops to be clean-shaved).
From my understanding, it’s to keep black people from serving. They have to be clean shaven and unfortunately black people tend to get really bad razor bumps which isn’t accepted.
There was in fact an exception process that Hegseth removed
No epi-ladies, only warriors!
New dog whistle unlocked.
It’s also about gas masks, can’t from a seal with a beard.
That’s the excuse, and the logic appears to make sense, but I think I recall it being tested and not really being much of a factor. That’s what makes it a good dog whistle though. People will rush to say “it makes them unfit for duty because the equipment won’t function” without looking further, so then the racist policies get protected and they don’t have to actually justify the racism.
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-beards-break-gas-mask-seal/
Yeah :(
Lack of evidence is not evidence of absence, just because a study hasn’t been conducted does not mean beards don’t interfere with wearing a gas mask.
Not having a jaw would probabry affect it too but there’s no studies on that, yet nobody would claim it wouldn’t
I’ve seen it tested, and it doesn’t really. I have no idea if there’s studies on that but, like you said, there isn’t evidence, so why would we have this restriction? If they actually cared about this reasoning, they’d put money into testing it. However, disproving it would remove their ability to use it to justify exclusion, if this is the reason instead of functionality.
Just think about it. If you put enough force on beard hairs they are pretty firmly against the skin. They don’t push the gas mask away. There aren’t really going to be any gaps. It just doesn’t logically make sense if you consider it for more than a second.
I have a beard and it affected the seal and operation of a GP5 gas mask when I had to wear one, which is quite a feat if you’ve seen a GP5 mask
I’m not familiar with what the US is doing but politicians make retarded changes all the time knowing anything about what they are doing or how things work in the real world
it’s to keep black people from serving
Sounds fake
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/hegseth-military-shave-waiver-black-troops/
Yeah, why would this white supremacist administration make racist policies?
This impacts at most 16300 troops, and there are 162000 black men in service. They’re going to need a much better strategy to get the blacks out if it’s racially motivated… Not to mention the 60000 black women unaffected by this
~10%? That’s a pretty solid fraction, certainly not bad when you still need to maintain plausible deniability.
That figure includes whites and you’re comparing it to black men only. Blacks in service represent 60% of the diagnosis so only 60% of that figure can be expected ot be black men.
I.e. closer to 4%
https://taskandpurpose.com/news/military-beards-break-gas-mask-seal/
It’s impossible to prove intent, but it is a policy of systemic racism. Intentional or not, it does have the effect of preventing black people from serving, or from being promoted.
It had to be difficult leading an army that’s largely Greek and unable to grow a beard
Yeah no trans people means your dumb ass just crippled military intelligence.
Also aren’t special forces super into having beards? I’m glad if we’re cutting back on them, especially the seals, the psycho bastards. And of course he’s a weirdo himself
It’s a dog whistle. Everyone who’s been in the army with an ethnically mixed population knows many black people (think West African mostly) have severe skin issues if they shave fully. I had two guys in my section (so I assume more in the company but I can’t recall) with exemptions and, of course, they were black.
Oh, wow, ok. I had no idea
The military started banning beards in WWI because they don’t work with gas masks (RIP cool civil war beards). They were only allowed again during the global war on terror because American soldiers were basically jealous of Afghani fighters’ full beards. Type of shit that’s too goofy to make up
I’m pretty sure “beardos” is only there to rhyme with “weirdos”.
He’s already cracked down on facial hair in the military. It’s been suspected It’s intentionally targeted against black men.
I also suspect he’s got an issue with beards in general as well, even though I believe he would have used a word for black people instead of beardos if he thought he could get away with it.
he cant grow a manly beard himself.
At this point he could and nothing would happen.
Pretty sure it’s there as an excuse to cut down on the number of black and brown people
Outrage about woke is 2023
Even MAGA has woken up to it being the great con played upon them
This bloke is like a tiktok streamer playing the role of defence secretary from a 1980s action movie
Like a satire anchor from Robocop or Total Recall.
