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    Surely this is just the preparation for false allegations against their opponents? Why put your crony as the FBI director if you’re not going to get him to lie and cheat for you. Part one, re-release what’s already out there, to show you’re exposing the “truth”, this gives legitimacy to whatever shit you come out with next.

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        It would be less terrifying if that were true. Rich people being corrupt and getting away with crimes is nothing new in America.

        The scary thing is that the ones that will get away with it are the ones who ally themselves with Trump. This is going to be used as another tool to attack our democracy.

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    Yeah because that’s how prosecutions start…by dumping troves of documents into the public domain so that we can do a citizen’s arrest!

    These breathing MAGA bots moonlight as fucking clowns.

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      Conservatives are pretty perverted people, they think it’s ok actually people are getting SA, and should be grateful someone powerful noticed the victims. I once followed some as tubers that turned right wingers over the pandemic, and guess what one of them did, bragged about knowing a vaguely pedophile in a school setting. First and foremost they love strongmen and will ignore any moral failings.

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      They don’t ignore it, they don’t care.

      They think elites should be able to do what they want— reactionary ideology was founded as a monarchical counterrevolutionary movement, and that’s the ideal they’re working backwards to achieve.

      Note that this obviously doesn’t apply to elites who aren’t aligned with their movement.

      They use rhetoric to divide the opposition and to rally their base; they don’t actually care about coherence.

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        In the early days of the conservative or the Donald subreddit I glanced in there, and their reasoning is elites and corporations should have no taxes period, and believe jobs will trickle down to people, I chuckled and closed the sub.

      • They think elites should be able to do what they want

        Recently, one of my moms was ranting about how corrupt Biden was for pardoning his son (she didn’t even know what he was charged for - I got her to look it up and then her response was basically "well, he deserved it anyways because of corruption). Later the same day, we were talking about how Musk was abusing his position to fire people investigating his companies and my moms responses were “that’s smart”.

        There’s so much “as long as my team does it, it’s good and no matter what the other team does, it’s bad”

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          Yep. It works exactly like cheating in sport. I know football fans who will want the harshest penalties for cheating in the opposite team, while just laughing and shrugging if someone in their team does the same thing or even worse. .

          • In this case, I kind suspect its an issue of saving face. They don’t want to admit that the team they supported are doing bad things, because it would admit being wrong. But until it starts to serious hurt them directly, they won’t care. Of course the current administration is actively trying to harm them, but I can’t imagine them admitting it until well after it happens…

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              For conservatives, their team is morally good so can do no bad. The other team is morally bad so can do no good. And the law is there to punish the bad people. The end result is selective enforcement of rules and laws against certain minorities.

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      They literally don’t think too hard about it. Just feed them the next conspiracy line and they’ll latch on, no matter how hard it goes against the last one. “He was there because he was trying to stop it” was the approximate excuse I heard a few years ago.

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        Right wingers are experts at mental gymnastics . First they have to believe their own lies, and in order to be convinced that Republicans lied are believable

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      Epstein’s client list is what will legally incriminate his ‘customers.’ Flight logs are good evidence, but not enough for a case alone.

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        The client list is only a starting point for investigating.

        It would take getting ahold of Epstein’s blackmail on people to actually get convictions.

        Even if someone was in his client list and had multiple trips to his island, that still isn’t enough proof. You could easily assume the individual went to the island for illegal activity because illegal activity was known to go on there, but that does not mean that they did anything illegal.

        Innocent until proven guilty, the blackmail is the evidence of guilt. It is likely that Maxwell has access to the blackmail, but that much dirt is very valuable as a leverage tool that nobody would want to give up. She probably won’t give up the blackmail to avoid being Epstein’d.

        We will never get the outcome we want because the blackmail is missing.

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      Real declassified documents will have a “secret” or “top secret” mark on the cover and on every page that is struck out, redacted, or otherwise obliterated.

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        it depends, recent documents will have a date of classification and expiration. it also depends on which agency did the classification because ODNI is toothless.

        ive never seen a FOIA request answered with crossed out portion marks.

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    Is there anything new in this release that we didn’t know years ago from the last one?

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      Some people said they are releasing it now because they are being distracted by the zelenksy interview, like a typical Republican move so the voters will forget this in 4 years, and they can claim it is old news. Notice msm almost never talks about Epstein files at all? It’s because it also exposes alot of potential abusers which are probably a lot ceos in msms and politcians

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      He’s already said that he will not release this information. I’m not sure why this is surprising anyone. They’re releasing stuff that was already out there. None of this is new and there won’t be anything new at least until the next administration if ever.

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      Mark my words, there will be absolutely nothing that implicates anyone in power. At least not for the next four years.