https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q3v9kOYew4
Throttle House reviews the 4th generation Toyota Tacoma.
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I like how the Geese complained about the noise, while this review revels in it. Vrrrrooom PSSHT.
I really wish carmakers would let the turbo noises out and mute the exhaust a little on these turbo 4s, I feel like they do the opposite to not scare people or something, and they sound awful as a result.
They should just make them both as silent as possible, only children want to hear that crap.
that was with the mic in the engine bay. From the cabin is going to be a much different experience.
I feel like Geese takes things a lot more seriously, which is why I don’t really like their reviews. Throttlehouse has fun with everything.
Engine sound is really a subjective thing and I don’t think we should treat judgements of good/bad as anything but their taste.
Not everyone is going to like boost noises, not every one is going to like a burble, pop, or crackle.
No manual option in the top trims is the reason I bought my 2023 Pro. Honestly, all the tech is kind of meh. They also increased the size by I believe 5 and 7 inches? Which is rough for my forest excursions. Rear discs are nice though.
Better torque in the low range and a sway bar disconnect are huge for off roading.
Torque is fixed with my tune, the disconnect is a nice to have for sure, but given that the outgoing Pro already has slightly better angles, I feel like the overall articulation clearance is probably going to stay the same. Plus, the price differential between the new model and old one will allow to put in a similar aftermarket solution tbh.
I miss the $12,000 single cab, 2WD, stick shift, 4-cylinder.
Face it, the 1980s are gone forever.
same 😔
Sounds like a piece of shitbox
I like how when it comes to pickups suddenly everyone’s a utilitarian purist. Wild.
And when companies do produce decontented vehicles, people wince at the price because options are typically the “cheap” part of the car and then don’t buy them.
The lesson is that most internet commenters are lying/cheapskates and you should produce what the market continually tells you to produce.
I hope history proves me wrong about an overstressed turbocharged 4 cylinder pushing that much truck around.
Is it over stressed? It’s making 278hp from a 2.4L engine.
Mercedes is pushing 416 from less displacement with a 2.0L engine.
To be fair, Mercedes is hardly the cornerstone of reliability. But yeah, I’d say you’re right on the money.
That’s why the 4.0 V6 was the superior truck engine. Made its torque lower in the powerband. Lots of these engines make it to 300k easily.
Not sure why I’m being downvoted for saying that I hope I’m wrong about this turbo 4. 😂
its literally peak torque at 3k more rpm lmao
Compared to the 3.5, not the 2.4 turbo.
As I’ve learned about engines by being involved with rebuilding hundreds of them, I’ve learned that most people have very little understanding of what kills them.
Without seeing inside this engine, statements like this are just… ignorant.
Perhaps you can offer some insight?
I doubt it’s overstressed, this is a 2.4 liter instead of a 2 liter
Well, time will certainly tell. That’s why I said I hope I was wrong.
If I needed a truck, I couldn’t imagine getting anything else. Even though I typically didn’t like Tacomas because of the 3.5 and C-channel frame, it didn’t compare to the 4Runners and GX with fully boxed frames.
My friends with Rams, Silverados, and F150 all had issues, the 2019 F150 has never towed and the transmission is going out. I got a new Frontier as a rental and it drove horribly, small inside, big outside, and already had electrical issues.
I feel like the Tacoma would be the only choice where I can feel it can go 300k miles with the original drivetrain. Just excluding the Tundra because it costs even more than the Tacoma.
That’s kind of a weird comparison. The Tundra costs more than the Tacoma because it’s a full-size truck vs. a mid-size. The F150, Silverado, and Ram also cost more than the Tacoma (similarly equipped).
Yes I know. But the Tacoma and domestics are kinda attainable for me new, the Tundra is substantially more expensive than both, less discounts than the domestic half tons.
Maybe you got some duds but trucks in general are reliable across the board , there is a reason why the highest mileage vehicles on road are mostly trucks
Yes tacomas are extra reliable but the F150 ain’t bad
I bought a super duty instead of a Tacoma because it’s more fuel efficient.
I mean there are a thousand other reasons but that’s one of them.
I got a new Frontier as a rental and it drove horribly, small inside, big outside, and already had electrical issues.
I traded my 2022 Tacoma for a 2023 Frontier. I got a mid trim Frontier so I haven’t had any electrical issues yet…
I honestly couldn’t stand the Tacoma transmission programing. The Frontier’s transmission might take a min to downshift when floored and hunts in slow traffic but, at least it will shift when you want it to. It feels like it has more low end torque. It’s smaller in every dimension than a Tacoma which I prefer for offroading.
The only complaint I have so far is that the frame of the Frontier sits lower than the Tacoma. The Tacoma had a low crossmember but, the whole frame sits low in the Frontier. It’s only about 1.5" difference stock to stock but, I have rubbed the frame in the Frontier and I never did that in the Tacoma.
It’s fully boxed now
Finally, that was my biggest wtf with is
I went from a '17 Tacoma to a '22 Frontier. I absolutely hated the Taco. Uncomfortable, terrible engine power, a clueless transmission which was always gear hunting. Averaged 17mpg. Just awful to drive every day.
The Frontier is more comfortable, more powerful, better fuel economy, better trans programming and additional gearing. Same size as the Taco. 34K miles without issue. We’ll see if it lasts 250K, but I couldn’t stand the Taco. I parked it unlocked on the street hoping someone would steal it. No luck.
Same exact move I made and I agree on everything you said. The Taco really rides on reputation but it’s actually pretty crap. Not that that will matter to the fanboys but fanboys gonna’ fanboy.
What kind of mileage are you getting from the Frontier? Looks like folks on Fuelly are getting around 18.
C channel frame is a very good thing. The box frame trucks were very rust prone.
If you want a truck that’s reliable long term, you want a frame you can wash out and doesn’t fill up with crud
Also the C channel makes it easy to bolt on proper rock sliders so I approve of that.
Lots of advantages, and I’d wager that nobody can tell the difference from the drivers seat.
The same strength and torsional stiffness as a box can be achieved, it just won’t be quite as light. Again, more thickness is good from a rust perspective.
I’ve seen nothing that suggests the Toyota’s with C channel frames have less rust issues than boxed frame competitors. And particularly the Tacoma 2nd and 3rd Gen have section where the front frame is riveted over the rear that is notorious for rust.
Emphasis on mid.
Tacoma subreddit going through the Kubler-Ross change grief model in real time
Lmaoo
In laymen’s terms, your screwed
How did the Tacoma return if it’s always been the midsize king and never went away?
The fact that a Tacoma of all trucks is making stu-tu-tu noises stock is absolutely nuts. I love it.
stu-tu-tu-tacoma!
I got sad when they didn’t include the Ridgeline in the midsized truck in the montage.
Also wtf was that tumble down the hill around 3:00 lol?
/u/throttlehouseTH The F-150 is news to me, what happened to the Ram?
All shall be updated in an upcoming ETH video!
RAM wasn’t big and stupid enough, obviously. /S
I can finally say Karaton listened to me when I harassed him on 86 day to review a Tacoma. Although I thoughts they’d do new vs old. Ok now do SIENNA COWARDS!!!
“Mid-size”
2024 Tacoma length: 212”
1995 Tacoma length: 174.8”
Don’t look into the camera while you’re driving.