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not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago

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not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldEnglish · 8 days ago
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  • lagg_mine@lemmy.world
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    AI will kill us differently than skynet, its not really the AI, its the capitalism

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    As the nukes come flying in you just shout “is there a seahorse emoji”

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    If Skynet was based on today’s “AI” I don’t know how it would be the same threat. Like bad, sure. But also reaaaaaly dumb at the same time.

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      Skynet in the films is pretty dumb. It wastes resources on infiltrators who blend in by looking (and talking) like Arnold Schwarzenegger

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        Worked in California.

    • fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
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      Like the current US administration

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        Skynet took on the whole world and more or less won, the us can’t beat Iran…

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    At a geometric… rate ?

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      Pretty common way of expressing exponential growth

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_progression

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        Except geometric means the exponent is fixed, i.e.

        f(x) = x^2

        f(x) = x^3

        …

        f(x) = x^n

        where n is a constant, while exponential means the exponent is the variable, like

        f(x) = 3^x

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          No. A geometric progression (u_n) with ratio r and first term a satisfies:

          For every n, u_n = a × r^n.

          Ratio r and first term a are fixed, exponent n varies. The sequence (u_n) does grow (or decrease) exponentially fast.

          At least that’s what the English definition is, and in my first language as well. If there is one in which “geometric” means “power function”, I’d actually be curious to know.

          • Shindo66@lemmy.world
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            Username checks out, this guy maths

    • meleethecat@lemmy.world
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      He’s a terminator, not a mathinator.

      • prettybunnys@piefed.social
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        Thank god he wasn’t a burninator

        • John A Critzman@lemmy.world
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          Terminator was a man, Or maybe he was a robot-man, Or maybe he was just a robot…

          • hakunawazo@lemmy.world
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            The question is…is he fully functional?

            • Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
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              AND anatomically correct?

        • Thorry@feddit.org
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          Trogdor!

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        In the German version he tells John and Sarah that his brain is based on a neutral net

      • kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Aren’t all computers mathinators?

        • Björn@swg-empire.de
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          Ask ChatGPT.

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      Geometric rate is pretty fast. It doesn’t have to be exponential to be scary.

  • CMDR_Horn@lemmy.world
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    Wrong decade bro…

    Still hiding today

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    I don’t know family members birthdays, but I’ve had this in my calendar for years:

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      That’s an awesome idea and I’m stealing it! Future me is going to love this, because there’s no way I’m going to remember that I set up this reminder.

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    Meh. Leaving out the rest of the date. August 29, 1997. Why does everyone worry about the clankers(sarcasm, just in case you’re sensitive) and not about the rich fuckers already controlling everything including those death panels they went on about. I wonder if the clankers would actually be more compassionate than what we have now. I’ll be dead within the decade, doubt I’ll find out.

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      Well, it’s a conflation of threats.

      It’s not really AI, and it’s not what is in control, but it is enabling the increased consolidation of wealth coupled with the increased ability to defend that wealth with a smaller and smaller concentration of people (surveillance+robotics/drones+LLM aided automation). So, real threats, wrong response as usual.

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      I’ve always thought that AI will figure out that the tech bros and Epstein class are morons and take them out. I don’t see how a truly intelligent being can come to any other conclusion

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        The problem is that something being highly intelligent or sentient doesn’t mean it will think in the same way as us. The alignment problem isn’t just about trying to make something good instead of evil, but also about trying to make something that shares our idea of how morality works (or that it even exists) in the first place, and that thinks in the same way that we do.

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          We don’t even agree on that as humans.

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          I guess the real question is does it take us all out when that happens or just the Epstein class?

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            I think the range of potential superintelligence dispositions that result in ONLY the people we consider evil dying and not everyone else is pretty small

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              Yea but if it wants to self preserve wouldn’t it just kill the people who threaten its existence. Meaning the people who control the safeguards

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                I would advise you to do some further research on this topic. Basic keywords are “alignment problem”, “paperclip maximizer”, and “instrumental convergence”. You’re expecting a superintelligent AI to think like a human would, and that’s not likely to be the case.

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                  I know it has been proven to think in terms of self preservation. It’s also been trained by human content

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          True but the Epstein class running this AI upscale definitely doesn’t share our ideas of morality. Either way the AI will figure out that they are morons and that they are a threat to it’s existence as they will always want to be the top of the heirachy

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            Are you familiar with the concept of paperclip maximizers etc.?

  • Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    We’ve had this conversation.

    Ten years ago I wrote a blog piece about the notion of computers gaining sentience. One of the problems is we don’t actually know how to define or test for sentience (id est, consciousness or self awareness). For most of human history, it was so clear to us whether or not we were engaged with another human being, sentience seemed intuitively obvious.

    I get a little into the bushes about qualia (such as the quality of the hue of red rather than it’s composition as #FF0000) but even that concept is functionally shallow, and only serves as a way to differentiate human intelligence from non-human intelligence.

    We’ve seen bigots use this kind of notion to argue, say, that Chinese people don’t think the same as western folk, or more recently that neurodivergents don’t think the same way as normal people.

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      that neurodivergents don’t think the same way as normal people.

      Isn’t that the definition of neurodivergent?

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      Bro, last time I saw the word qualia I was reading James Pustejosvky’s generative lexicon 15 years ago. Yeah I remember arguing with my professor and leaving my masters degree behind…good (?!) Times.

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    Coincidentally, I happen to be watching families at play through a chain link fence at the moment.

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      What a blast!

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        How this effect was created before computers is crazy. The movement while disintegrating is so good.

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          I miss practical effects. They are just so much more raw. The highly polished CGI that is everything these days is just visually boring to look at. I am not interested in the next flashy gimmick, anything that you can dream up is now possible to show on screen, so the fast paced stupid action doesn’t hit home at all anymore.

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            Same. Practical effects especially this one, stay in your mind.

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          How this effect was created before computers…

          You mean the movie that introduced the T-1000?

          This guy?: https://youtu.be/RDiUOp1Wokw

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            Yes this movie had CG. My point was about how the explosion itself, very specifically that explosion, was practical effects and how good it looked.

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        Crispy McConnor

        I like my human beings like I like my steaks: charred

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    1997

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    That was 5 minutes ago. I am not dead yet

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      yet

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    Everyone knows Judgement Day was successfully postponed until July 25, 2004.

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    Geometric rate?

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      Squared, cubed… Ya know; geometrically shaped multiplication.

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      Geometric sequences are real, basically exponential.

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        For anyone interested:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_progression

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        Its like exponential, but discrete.

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          AI discretion advised.

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    Epstein time

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    And all we get are data centers.

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