My comment was removed for “misinformation”

https://crazypeople.online/post/18266774

Apparently the mod likes using euphemisms for their extracting wealth from other productive members of society and really dislikes being reminded.

  • mathemachristian[he]@lemmy.ml
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    PTB passive income means by definition living off other peoples labor. That whole thread is about how you the poor white person can have a comfortable life at the cost of the brown people.

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      I don’t think paying people for services rendered at rates set by their local economy is quite a exploitative as you make it out to be compared to the dispute about passive income.

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        Nah it’s not the same level, maybe. But it’s still exploitative, you perform labor for a richer nation, get paid according to the richer nations rates and then live according to a poorer nations rates. Like you get more for the same amount of labor performed than the local person. And they don’t even get benefits of your labor, or if anything very indirectly. It’s still exploitative and is dependent on there being a system of unequal exchange by imperial nations from the host nation.

        edit: out of curiosity, are the other types of wyvern than dragon?

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    The only passive income that wouldnt qualify IMO is making something digital. An online training, eBook, software, video game if you don’t support it. You work like hell to release it and then if you don’t keep modifying it the income rolls in while youre on to the next thing.

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      online training, eBook, software, video game

      Yep, this is my source of passive income. Allowed me to retire early and tell my former boss to fuck off. I was sorta surprised to see that passive income was such a controversial topic of conversation here. I get some of the arguments though. But for me, being older and uneducated, this is better than slaving away for others and worrying about layoffs and stuff. I banked away enough that now I won’t ever have to work again, even if the passive income goes away. I just had to, and continue to, live frugally and not be stupid with my money.

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      That’s also rent-seeking in the form of copyrights btw, but as far as rent-seeking goes, I agree it’s the least problematic

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          Charging customers for content they own the copyright to is definitely the least problematic aspect of Disney. They have many much greater sins to answer for.

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              Sure, but I still rate the racism, homophobia, animal cruelty, use of sweatshop labour, and Zionism as worse. Copyright laws are unfair to consumers, while the others cause actual harm.

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    Feels a bit heavy for a travel sub. I wouldn’t qualify it as misinformation though.

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    It’s only a suspicion, but I think crazypeople.online might be related to hilariouschaos and/or exploding-heads. I give extra scrutiny to users from those instances just like I do with those from the .mls, for the opposite reason.

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    Ima break both a personal rule and a community rule in hopes of making a point. I might fail, but please do understand nothing I’m saying is trolling.

    You ever hear the term “you’re not wrong, you’re just as asshole”?

    Well, if not, then welcome to knowledge of both the saying and the fact that you’re not wrong, you’re just as asshole.

    Yes, I just called you an asshole, which is uncivil, and not directly on topic. This means that a mod of this community might well remove this comment. They might decide that my history in this community is such that I deserve other action, such as a temp ban, a public warning, a private warning, or even a permaban.

    All of those have merit in response to me calling you a technically correct asshole. I would call a permanent ban PTB in this case, considering that I did lead off saying that it wasn’t a random insult. But, if would have merit and be defensible because doing so wasn’t absolutely necessary in order to partake in the conversation in this community.

    I could have just said YDI/baiting and pointed out that you made entirely off topic insult to a user that had not previously insulted you. I could have just dropped the YDI and said nothing else. I had choices in how to approach this.

    So, why did I take such a semi aggressive choice?

    Well, I think it was the sheer arrogance of the comment you made in a travel community, and the fact that you took an off topic comment being removed as something out of line.

    You know, us left wingers are not excused from a minimum level of manners just because we believe we’re in the right. You know those assholes that show up to family reunions and holidays and won’t shut the fuck up about politics? You just did that. You walked into a community unrelated to left wing philosophy and action, and let loose a proverbial shart.

    It was inappropriate, rude, and did absolutely nothing to advance the cause of economic and social reform.

    Now, I tend to believe in the freedom of speech, even rude speech. You had a right to be a dick. You also have to understand and accept that when you’re a dick, there may be consequences.

    All that mod did was the equivalent of your grandmother pulling you aside and saying to be nice in her house. It was a completely acceptable and even handed action to take.

    Now, again I’m going to break my personal rule of staying on the topic of mod actions rather than the original subject of a comment or post.

    But, being real, if you expect anyone at all in the capitalist hellscape we live in to be swayed by your rolling up and doing the text equivalent of spitting in their face like a drunk uncle ranting about the brown people, you need to sit down and stop making the cause look bad. The left is already outnumbered in the capitalist world, and people being raving assholes does NOTHING to help.

    There, that’s my equivalent of spitting in your face at the Christmas party during a drunken rant. I accept any mod actions deemed necessary.

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      It’s rich to claim “participate in the exploitation of the working class” through a euphemism, is not political. To continue your bbq analogy, it’s like seeing your rich aunt discuss strategies about union busting in her factory during the party, and when you say “hey, maybe unions are actually good” you get called an “asshole” by her spoiled shitlib kid who want to think themselves a lefty.

      The fact of the matter is that the post was inherently political and particularly that statement. Me calling it out doesn’t make me an asshole, (and fuck you too btw), nor do we “advance the cause of economic and social reform” by hiding in niche political comms to talk about exploitation, because we might otherwise trigger the libs who moderate us away. We agitate wherever there’s injustice, especially when it makes people uncomfortable and if you don’t get that, well, “then welcome to knowledge”.

      PS: Writing this wall of text is just hobbyless behaviour.

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        Eh, that’s all as may be, but none of that invalidates it being an acceptable mod action to only remove the comment.

        Edit: also, lemmy is a hobby. I mean, c’mon, you run this branch of it, right? That’s a hobby that supports the hobby of others scrolling and shooting the shit. Which, as an aside to that, I’m glad you do! I enjoy my hobby on your hobby sometimes :)

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          As far as hobbies go, punching left on the internet, is not exactly healthy behavior. I enjoy the creativity of the technical implementation, we are not the same. :P

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            No worries, I only punch taint, and only with consent lol.

            Legit, I have no clue how anyone can maintain anything like this as long as you have. I would burn the hell out in a year. I assume an unhealthy streak of masochism has to be involved, what with the teeny tiny glimpse of understanding I have if implementing a lemmy instance. I seriously thought at one point of trying to set one up as a learning experience and noped the hell out fast.

            Shit, I wouldn’t even mod a significantly active community at this point. Just don’t have the energy for it. Kudos to you!

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              TMI. Wait until you learn I also run and develop the AI Horde and Fediseer. My profession is in IT infrastructure automation and this is my way of doing mutual aid, so I’m more or less uniquely positioned to do this, but I do admit that I’m a freak.

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                That is a ton of work.

                Regardless of the disagreement over the original topic, that’s impressive as hell that you’re putting that much of your energy into something you believe in. I’m glad we have freaks like you in the world :)

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    Hahaha, I like how he replies with a wiki link that immediately mentions stock markets and rent income … the poster-children for parasites on society.

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      And honestly it’s a stretch to call the stock market “passive income”. Most people don’t think of that at all when they say it. It’s 99% a euphemism for rent seeking

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    how you do a link

    !travel@crazypeople.online

    and thanks, I just joined as I am a scumbag passive income guu who travels 8-9 months a year, then boomerangs home for 3-4.

    I quit work when i was 40, one of the reasons was it was difficult to reconcile the explotation most work entails here in Australia at eleast. I am now 60.

    I do think it’s problematic though, is OP, who feels “sleighted” going to claim a pension or live off personal investments they’re accumulating now when older, or just seppuku ?

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      My plan for old age is the collapse of civilization.

      Joking aside, I don’t consider pensions “passive income” as I’ve been actually paying money all my working life. I do consider the whole pension system a joke and a scam most of the time and it can actually be exploitative, but at least those in it typically have to be productivity most of their lives. But ultimately the pension system should also be scrapped and replaced by a straight up social net funded by the state, if we’re talking about staying in capitalism.