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    Dear all, please remember that engaging with trolls can get you banned (rule of thumb, half the time the offender gets for themselves)

    Write what you want others to read, I don’t care if there are disagreements. But go get a private chat room if you want to exchange insults with them :)

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    I would be very surprised if such a fork would diverge from Linux. I would guess that this would be little more than a branch with (most likely) support for Russian hardware. Just my hunch.

    A legitimate hard fork doesn’t seem particularly smart to me, but what do I know…

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      It’s not about a divergent featureset, it’s about making sure Russian businesses can continue to legally use Linux if the US decides to make that the next step

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      “I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Rus/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Russian Federation plus GNU plus Linux minus Linus.”

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      This will only show the idiots over at Western governments that FOSS is hurr durr bad, lets Ruskies evade sanctions

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            Very few

            Honestly I don’t see much point in BSD. Weak licensing and the BSDs are all different. Wayland and systemd are probably nails in the coffin as neither of them will ever work on BSD.

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      The thing is, there is no way for the US and British to swoop in and declare unlimited military support for the opposing side in exchange for mineral rights and financial predation on its industry and state assets.

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          Oh, was I the one who brought up the war in Ukraine over Linux? No, that was Reddit brigaders infecting every topic they mentally associate with it, as usual.

          Sir, this is a Kernel. This is not the United Nations.

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        The real challenge facing a kremlin linux fork isn’t opposition, it’s deciding what to do once they realize there aren’t any maternity wards in the kernel they can shoot ballistic missiles at.

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          Oh first the Russian government is the one responsible for the fork itself, now suddenly they are shooting missiles at it in your mind. The liberal brainpan is a fascinating place.

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            I think you may have misread the message you replied to. The message you replied to was implying the Russians wouldn’t know how to deal with the kernel because they can’t shoot missiles at it. That’s the opposite of what your reply implies.

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          That’s what I’m saying, associating it with the SMO is just liberal Russiagate brainworms manifesting over every issue related to the country. I wasn’t the one to bring it up.

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              Yes, and if Russia is solely defined by the war in Ukraine to you, you don’t even understand how their government works. It’s pure jingoism. Are these people who decided they are Linux superfans the day that Russian maintainers were kicked out so comfortable with the idea that only Western governments should invest in open source technologies? This kind of thing should become a public utility.

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                  We discussed that “expectation” already, and how hopes of diplomacy with Ukraine evaporated officially with Boris Johnson’s visit. Of course, behind the scenes it was already hopeless since 2014. They just took time to prepare for sanctions.

                  Rather than discussing the prospect of the development of Linux as a public utility by a diverse array of nations and groups, you show up to cheerlead for western tech monopolies and the intellectual apparatus. You jeer. You hoot. You’ve got your burger in hand.

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        Like many things in Russia, the appearance is more important than the truth. If there were anything substantial made, I’m sure there will one or more soy agencies helping to pad a developer’s savings.

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          I’m sorry is there anything in your brain other than slop from Google News? You see the word Russia and you start writing fanfiction!

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              remember the news article I won’t source

              Nope, people can’t read your mind.

              Some things cannot be taught, but absorbed through the pores. Some views are etched early on

              You have some personal issues to discover and resolve. I wish you luck undoing your idealistic devotion to Culturalist thinking.

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                I tried to delete that before you replied, if you don’t know then you don’t know. But my example is solid. Many great people in Russia though, not disrespecting that but only the system instead .

                Life imitated art and I expect the western counties to catch up later

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                  Russia doesn’t have some kind of transcendental national character. There are very particular and specific holdovers from the USSR, but the Russian Federation should never be treated as a direct parallel to the USSR.

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    Go for it. That’s one of the benefits of being FOSS, and other countries have their own versions of Linux already (that meet whatever dumb authoritarian rules are required).

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        Why should this be different than the US or EU funding open source, either directly or through universities, corporations, and NGOs that often intersect with the military “industrial” financial complex?

        Try to explain why it’s different rather than pointing to their nationality and going “well, see???”

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          Because Russia is under sanctions. They would have to take everything into there own hands which means they would basically have a separate project.

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            they would basically have a separate project.

            That’s what a fork is. Happens all the time.

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              It really doesn’t happen all the time. It is pretty rare for a fork to be successful especially if most of the development is still happening on the original project. I don’t see Russia having much success with this.

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            Oh sure we agree then, was just minigun full auto posting. It’s going to be completely separate from the financial system that has most open source development under its thumb, I find that exciting.