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  • Just look at the revenue and value of sponsorships of the clubs and you will understand why people make the determination.

    West Ham are, I think, the closest in revenue to the “big 6”, but still £100m short of Arsenal. NUFC are closer in sponsorship values, but still £15m a season short of Spurs.

    People get distracted by performances and conflate it with the general standing of the club. There is still a huge gap for clubs to bridge.







  • You have to take your pick, accept that it’s a project that will take time, or keep your expectations high and be consistently disappointed when it isnt working.

    The reality of the premier League now is that there are probably 7 or 8 clubs competing for the European spots so I think fans, across the board, need to realign their expectations.

    Some seasons you will progress, others you will falter. I’m highly doubting there is going to be a, “we’re back” moment where everything goes back to the way it was.



  • I just think 10 points is disproportionate.

    Makes no sense that administration is 9 points and a financial overspend of ~£20m is more.

    I know that Everton abused a loop hole in COVID and they overspent sponsorship money they didn’t have, so there should be some repercussion for that, regardless of the City and Chelsea situations, but they also had the rug pulled under their feet by the Usmanov situation which I think would be unfair to not consider as extenuating circumstances.

    I’m not defending a Russian oligarch here, I’m defending the club and the fans. Right up until that point, there was nothing to stop sponsorship from russian companies.


  • Sure, but that wouldn’t account for the level of tribalism on Reddit.

    It’s just full of cunts, and the content of someone’s message is way, way, way down the list of reasons people will engage and “vote” on it.

    At this point it’s almost worthless having an NUFC flair, or even using this account to post on r/soccer or r/premierleague. Typically doesn’t matter what I say, it almost immediately it gets pummels with downvotes within seconds.

    This is one of the rare occations that I’ve somehow slipped through (for now). I would say the totally scientific ratio is 1/10 posts that happens.


  • There are no Reddit subs available for intelligent football conversation between rival fans.

    The only thing that exists is a dog-pile competitions, and club specific subs where you can talk to fellow supporters. If anything, the dog-piling was not as bad here than r/soccer, but these days it’s barely distinguishable.

    Occasionally there is a pocket of decent conversation within a thread, but its rare, and one fan base or another will take issue with it and start derailing it with prejudice.



  • It’s worth trialling, but not in the premier League.

    The big positive is that it removes some of the subjectivity with line measurements being done from images that don’t have the accuracy for line measurement. People saying, “a toenail is still offside” have been pissing me off for years. The images they’re using are not accurate enough for that. They can draw it a couple of pixels off on both players and change a decision. Those pixels could be misleading due to artifacts that we have visually seen in the clips they used, such as oblong balls.

    When they have been drawing these lines I’ve always said that if they’re touching, they should stick with the on-field decision or give preference to the attacker.

    If they change it to what is being proposed, that whole debate is in the bin, as there has to be actual space between the players. There is still room for VAR error on tight calls, but that room is far, far smaller.

    On the other hand, a high press with offside trap is way harder to pull off unless you have quick CBs, that would be a big change to adapt to. I think it’s likely we see the defensive line dropping deeper when out of possession which could stifle play, and in some cases result in less goals.




  • poor camera placement

    I mean, they already deploy like 30+ cameras per game. They simply cannot have, for example, like 40 cameras just dedicated to making sure they get every possible offisde angle in every game.

    I don’t actually think people understand how expensive the cameras they use, and all the things that are needed to facilitate it for VAR actually are, including the staff to run them (many of which will likely be contractors on like £400-600 a day, depending on seniority and skill, in some cases more). I’m not even sure there is enough operators in the industry to keep up with the demand. I certainly get offers on a regular basis to drag me back into live ops.

    People keep making these arguments without a single thought going into how it would actually work and how much it costs. It’s feasibility is really stretching the bounds of reality.