The sub popped up in my feed a few months ago and all I really see here is people complaining (mainly about City, Newcastle, UAE, Saudi Arabia, and refs) and posting about conspiracies and conspiracy theories.

There’s very little in the way of moderate football discussion, and it feels like a circlejerk at times.

Has it always been this way? R/soccer has had its own challenges for a long time, but even there the proportion of interesting content tends to be higher.

I enjoy participating in subs like r/championship and r/theother14

  • W26D12L0@alien.topB
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    Yeah it’s pretty dire here, if you come here looking for intelligent football discussion you’re pretty far away from finding it

    I mainly just use it to have a laugh so it has its uses

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      I got down voted over 500 times for stating the obvious and saying this sub gags for man city

      Lol.

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      There are no Reddit subs available for intelligent football conversation between rival fans.

      The only thing that exists is a dog-pile competitions, and club specific subs where you can talk to fellow supporters. If anything, the dog-piling was not as bad here than r/soccer, but these days it’s barely distinguishable.

      Occasionally there is a pocket of decent conversation within a thread, but its rare, and one fan base or another will take issue with it and start derailing it with prejudice.

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        And reading words v discussion in person is very hard to pick up on certain queues

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          Sure, but that wouldn’t account for the level of tribalism on Reddit.

          It’s just full of cunts, and the content of someone’s message is way, way, way down the list of reasons people will engage and “vote” on it.

          At this point it’s almost worthless having an NUFC flair, or even using this account to post on r/soccer or r/premierleague. Typically doesn’t matter what I say, it almost immediately it gets pummels with downvotes within seconds.

          This is one of the rare occations that I’ve somehow slipped through (for now). I would say the totally scientific ratio is 1/10 posts that happens.

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        Exactly my sentiments, I have my mates that I see once a week or once a fortnight or so and there’s never any animosity in our discussions and I genuinely learn things from considering other angles

        On here I don’t know what it is but people seem different online it’s very strange

        I will say there was a point this sub was more bearable but it isn’t any more for anything other than having a laugh, although that’s getting harder to do, people are so sensitive

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        Tbf even the big media organizations dedicated to talking about football for entertainment are equally bad.

        I miss the days of talkSport where Peterborough and Northampton Town fans would call in moaning or talking up their side or moaning about how bad their lower league footy was that day. Since moving to the states I get way better epl coverage but also miss the soccer Saturday where I’d see updates from “rubbish” teams bc they still mattered.

        But overall, idk the last time I heard anyone have an intelligent convo about footy. Sometimes there’s good analysis, but it’s something objective.

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      What’s that, you haven’t won a UCL? How dare you weigh in to a discussion that involves x player not performing for my (rival) club.