0% APR for 60 months is incredible!

Considerating slow depreciation, essentially 2 grand a year to drive a brand new awesome Mazda, I think is unbeatable. Gonna get Turbo?

Have you seen this comparison between the CX-5 and CX-30?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ISasydJZkM

Sounds like a sneaky sales tactic to me.

Of all the EVs, the Toyota HEVs (aka Hybrids) are of the top quality and have the least problems of any class of vehicle.

The truth is getting around faster than suckers are being born.

That’s the real reason for the BEV slump and HEVs taking off.

Either GM relegates itself to a forever-inferior station within the automotive world, or they develop a great aptitude at Hybrids. GM did a very good job with the Volt. BEVs shouldn’t be. Hybrids enhance the performance and efficiency of IC powertrains. It’s like a critical feature. It makes internal combustion get ~30-50% more efficiency to the gallon, and better performance, too.

That’s not very realistic. I’ve heard others who expressed similar thinking about PHEVs and commute range, and that’s the thinking that was being proposed by the PHEV-makers, but that’s not how people naturally are inclined to behave. People are inclined to do what they want and not feel the need to worry so much. That’s not unconscientiousness, it’s simply non-neurosis.

Committing at time of purchase to incur the extra weight and expense of PHEV in order to adopt a whole lot of ritualistic charging practices for very little benefit (which people tire of), along with the significant drop in efficiency relative to HEV for the life of the vehicle… PHEV just isn’t rational. Paying more to get a less good vehicle is what it is. Paying more to get a compromised hassle. Fortunately, with PHEVs, the option always remains to drive as if you had bought a HEV in the first place, albeit with the significantly inferior (to HEV) MPG and extra weight. See?

Whatta mess!

Note: vehicle in question is a PHEV

Is anyone selling stock in portable “personal massager” companies?

heh heh heh

HEV is the future and the now.

Ubiquitous BEV ownership was a delusional fever dream of a greedy man and should never have been placed in people’s minds as an idealized eventuality or goal. It’s not even a serious thought. The charlatans should never have been taken seriously.

Humanity should never have gotten sidetracked by BEV.

Improving performance and efficiencies is a worthwhile pursuit, and that’s exactly what HEVs do. I’m glad and grateful that the BEV spell is being broken. The world doesn’t need more BEVs or more BEV chargers. BEVs were the wrong way. The world shouldn’t build any more of either.

Plugging in cars is a passing fad. What a gigantic mess that has been made. What a civilizational mania. I’m glad that it is coming to a swift end.

It’s a misconception that Toyota was a laggard or a dummy or otherwise incompetent when it comes to BEVs. Toyota chose the HEV path due to the inherent unbetterness of BEVs. Toyota is very conscientious. Toyota is very disciplined.

Many more (90x) Hybrid battery systems can be manufactured with the same quantities of battery material required to make a battery for one single BEV. Doing so reduces ~38x the carbon that would be saved from building a single EV. HEV is much more economical _and_ much more environmentally friendly. The multiplier is only 6x for the PHEV:BEV difference in battery materials required. BEVs are resource hogs.

Humanity is awakening from an episodic lunacy for BEVs.

Humanity is rapidly coming to embrace HEVs whole-heartedly.

Volkswagen should scuttle all its BEV and PHEV ambitions and offer HEV across its whole line.

As consumers become more informed and the true lifetime costs of BEVs becomes more known, more and more people will choose to go with HEVs for their preference and vehicles of choice.

BEV mania was a wrong turn for humanity. People didn’t do due diligence.

Internal Combustion lifted mankind from poverty and isolation. It doesn’t deserve to be shamed by any combination of plug fetishists or rare earth mineral gluttons or 3rd world plunderers or toxic battery waste producing miscreants or greedy charlatans.

With Hybrid tech, IC has gotten way way better. Now about those coal plants…

Toyota was right all along about HEV. HEV is actually better than PHEV. HEV is significantly lighter, cheaper, and more efficient than PHEV. Toyota _made_ a PHEV, but the HEV version is better. Estimations of PHEV tend not to account for enough factors. The Pruis (HEV) - Prius Prime (PHEV) comparison is an ideal example.

In an metaphor: Requiring yourself to sustain a ritual of plugging in your car to make up for having to lug around a big fat 364 lb ghost sitting in the back seat of your car for the lifetime of the vehicle, even when you’re running on gas and even when you’re running on electric.

Kindof a funny metaphor, right?

The presumption that BEV is better was the fallacy that was tripping people up. It was like one of those speed seduction fast-talking slight-of-hand kindof things.

We all should have gotten psyched up about the ingeniousness of the newest Hybrids/HEV tech instead of being derailed by the BEV dead end and the con men it rode in on.

We don’t need more chargers all over. More people should adopt Hybrids/HEVs when the time comes for them to replace their car, and they shouldn’t be negative about internal combustion generally. It’s possible that a liquid gasoline replacement comes out in the next hundred years thats got more performance and is better for the environment that’d work excellently with internal combustion engines, so people shouldn’t be so dang hostile to it. The BEV (and to a lesser degree, PHEV too) distraction was a distraction from the bigger picture, and it became a bit of a fixation for some people. Economy-wise, HEVs justify themselves through their lifetime of cost savings. BEVs don’t, so some greedy men lobbied governments for taxpayer moneys and have been mooching since. Environment-wise, China’s and India’s and the U.S.'s coal plants and garbage incineration pollute tremendously more than the global transportation segment does. Transportation-caused pollution is relatively small potatoes. The huge quantity of toxic waste from dead BEV batteries is going to be a lasting reminder of humanity’s foolishness.

There has been sooooooo much misreporting and misdiscussion because of people accounting the types and categories differently. For example, does “electric vehicles” and “electrification” include or exclude electric hybridization? Includes, of course. I see, now, why people started using the HEV / PHEV / BEV nomenclature.

Toyota is enjoying a really nice profit right now, with money that the BEV charlatan had hoped to win through deception and disinformation bombardment. Tesla got a lot of people riled up and excited about vehicles, and when people did their shopping research, flocks and droves of them found themselves deciding that it was wiser and better to go with a Toyota, and they were right.

You might be tempted to believe that BEVs would be less prone to problems as they have fewer parts, but in reality many BEV owners have an inordinate multitude of problems with their vehicles, including premature catastrophic major component failures. Another grief that they’ve had is the huge expense of repairs in the case of minor accidents and rapid depreciation of resale value.

HEVs are booming, BEVs are slumping

The best possible thing for GM to do is to offer every model of theirs in Hybrid (HEV).

GM should not pursue PHEV or BEV. Plugging in cars is a gimmick and passing fad.

The market has proven that people most highly demand Hybrids (HEVs).

HEVs are the future and the now. Don’t believe the con about BEVs being the future or being ideal.

Avoid BEVs and PHEVs. Stick to pure HEVs.

Who funded those flamboyant videos? Who is behind them? It isn’t Toyota’s style. Could it be Tesla itself, false flagging Big Daddy Toyota?

It’s akin to an attack on the whole Swedish Labor Model.