• thunderlips_oz@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    2 year wait, at least, for a new hybrid Toyota around my way. I usually buy a new car when I need one, so that counts out Toyota for me.

  • TheDirtDude117@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    EV demand is up but it’s also deeply subsidized and EVs technically even count some Plug in Hybrids.

    A 2012 Volt VOLT is a EV by used EV tax standards.

    I’d agree EVs are great for some but Plug in Hybrids are gateway drug to EVs and should be welcomed.

  • Few-Sock5337@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Toyota’s logic is that as of the next few years, there is not enough lithium to go full electric, and that for a given quantity of lithium save more on greenhouse gases by building 1000 hybrid than a hundred full electrical + 900 ICE cars.

  • pixel_of_moral_decay@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    There’s a big chunk of the world where EV’s are impractical due to infrastructure.

    Hybrids might play a role there. Even more so hydrogen will play a role.

    It’s going to be hard for the west to accomplish the infrastructure needed. For other parts of the world it’s even worse

    Once enough people switch to EV’s the economy of scale for gasoline fails and prices cyclically increase. For the west this will hurt a tiny bit but money will fix it.

    For poorer parts of the world it will be hydrogen and EV’s to fill in that gap until electrical infrastructure can be sufficient.

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      1 year ago

      In these parts of the world where EVs are impractical due to infrastructure, what makes you think hydrogen is going to be better?

  • Appropriate-Welder68@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Toyota is absolutely right. We need a transition period. Not enough infrastructure to support all electric vehicles. Also the trend should be automakers producing more hybrid electric combo vehicles so you can travel long distances without hunting for a compatible charger.

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      1 year ago

      PHEVS are the best. You can travel for hundreds of miles and not worry that the charger near you is currently being hogged by some assholes Model 3.

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    1 year ago

    Smoking hot market? More lies, its funny how news actually became fake news.

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      1 year ago

      People are buying them more because it’s what’s available, load of cars are transitioning to hybrid only. So of course sales will skyrocket.

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    11 months ago

    Hybrids are the equivalent of those DVD-VHS combos we had for like 5-8 years… an outlet for people still too hesitant to commit to the future. I went EV 4 months ago and have heard the same statement over and over from friends who have also gone EV… “I’ll never go back”. They’re cleaner, quieter, quicker, simpler, and a lot more fun to drive. A shame there is so much misinformation circulating, but not surprising given the multibillion dollar oil & gas industry has so much to lose.

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    1 year ago

    i love the idea of hybrids, i hope they don’t suffer from hype inflation as i get closer to buying one

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    1 year ago

    I personally will never drive full electric no matter how much it’s pushed. I don’t own one but hybrids are just the best option currently we should’ve made hybrids the main focus while quietly developing full electric. Being able to use gas or not use gas is just such a net positive in every way imaginable

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    1 year ago

    Just from my own recent anecdotal experience trying to buy a new PHEV, hybrids are harder to shop for now than EVs. Ford dealer had quite a few Mach-Es but only one PHEV. Hyundai dealer had quite a few Ioniq 5 and 6s…but no PHEV in stock. Did a demo of the Toyota Prius Prime…absolutely stunning car…wanted it bad…9-month wait list. Ended up with a used Hyundai Ioniq PHEV. Amazing car by the way. EV most of the time (40km range) but massive range if needed (900km) and no range anxiety.