• rapozaum@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    This was Raya’s first big game for us and we not only won, but also had a clean sheet. So his nervous display for 30 minutes is more than understandable and acceptable.

    And this is if you wanna forget about how good he was on the other matches aswell…

  • Britton120@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    4-5 glaring errors? I remember a couple, and one looked worse than it was because he received a pass he probably shouldn’t have. But 4-5? Seems like more than there was.

    • fuckyourstyles@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      He misplaced 3 passes straight to city players in the first 30 minutes.

      Whether those are glaring errors is up for debate I guess.

    • pies1010@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I can easily remember 4. The one that nearly went in, the corner that he was nowhere for and the two he missed passing up the middle.

      After we scored the goal, he was fantastic though.

  • bad_at_proofs@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    For context just want to point out that a keeper leading progressive passing yards (4 out of top 5 in league are keepers) is very normal. The final 3rd entries is particularly impressive though.

    • danny_healy_raygun@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Bit more context, he had the 2nd worst pass completion % in the team at 67% (Jesus being below him on 65%). This along with that stat above goes to show that he played a lot of long balls and while some were very good, a lot were not.

      Ultimately this is a stat that can tell you more about how we played against City than anything interesting about Rayas ability.

    • Duty_Alone@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Yes it is - but still indicative of the style of the game. Hoofing it up to Havertz and Jesus in the final third is how we killed the game in the end, so it makes sense that that’s where the final third passes came from.

  • Hech15@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    You need your eyes to see he had a shit first half… Most progressive passes where is he going to pass don robbie sitting behind him

    For me raya looks like a better keeper so i will start him still but i will need a season worth of observation of him… ramsdale looked worldclass in first 5 months when he joined

    • Duty_Alone@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      I think it’s fair to say that Raya’s been statistically better, and yet, on balance hasn’t been entirely convincing so far.

  • HardCoreLawn@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Is it me, or does this statistic just emphasise that Ode had an off day?

    For me, it just feels like the team’s overall performance always matches Odegaard’s performance.

    • alibabasfortythieves@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Just you? This statistic means nothing much. Reality is Raya could’ve lost of the game three times over in the first half. We were very lucky. It would’ve been been the typical arsenal city games where it was gone within 15-20 mins. This also tells me raya ended up with the ball a lot - something we don’t want. Keepers only have one option with the ball - play forward. This start isn’t a Ø problem but rather displaying we were under pressure a fair bit and most of game was closer to our final third than theirs.

    • jentso@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      Martin’s stats are worse without Partey as the 6 because he has the drop deeper to receive the ball. Partey is the only one that has the swag to shake off a press and progress it up to Martin and Saka under pressure.

      Raya alleviates that a bit by passing over the press. I mean Rambo can as well but Raya is just better.

      Partey and Raya on the pitch should give us total freedom for progression and be “unpredictable”.

    • Duty_Alone@alien.topB
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      11 months ago

      It’s an advertisement that the game was largely cagey and not full of attacking, which we already knew.

      Our goal was off a deflection, their best chance was from pressing Raya.

  • victorkimuyu@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Raya was adventurous and courageous with his oassing. That’s what playing from the back calls for.

  • NotesOfNature@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    A lot of people jumping to the conclusion this stat is misleading?

    So I presume you guys know how often this is the case with goalkeepers?

    Is it the norm or not?

  • mountainjay@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Here’s what I make of it: it is stupid to use statistics to try and explain most things in football. Data doesn’t tell enough of the story compared to other sports. This rise in statistics for football pisses me off. Quit trying to make it like other sports. Fuck me.

  • darkstream14@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Being at the top means you’re constantly looking to improve. Raya is an upgrade to Ramsdale for me so far.

  • DragomirSlevak@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    Is this supposed to be a joke? This guy can’t be serious. Let’s translate what this all means:

    Progressive passing yards = Not passing behind him but in front of him. (would be a hell of a thing for the last man back to pass behind him! He’s the only one on the pitch that will never pass behind himself. This is a useless statistic.)

    Long passes completed = the keeper long ball. (Literally means nothing again.)

    Passes into the final third = the keeper long ball. (Practically the same statistic as the previous one. If he’s kicking long balls, they are going into the final third.

    I’m more interested in other stats, such as how many saves are made from shots outside the box. That’s a meaningful statistic. And if you look at stats like those, Ramsdale has Raya beat.

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    11 months ago

    Even the best keepers usually around 50% long pass completion. So 67% is an absolute monstrous stat.

  • lobsterdog666@alien.topB
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    11 months ago

    he played MULTIPLE hospital passes in the first half. i don’t give a shit about his “progressive pass ratio” or whatever the fuck, he’s gonna get someone killed