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    I’m shocked more CEOs of electric car companies aren’t angry enough at the high price of diesel to openly commit war crimes

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    When the world richest man can order a country to be fucked over and people to die, you’d think we’d get rid of that man, but here we are.

    No single person should be able to wield such power

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      SpaceX should be nationalized.

      Except then it would belong to the US so it just changes the man in charge of things and not for any better or worse really.

      Perhaps such a satellite network should simply not be allowed to exist in the first place. Then there’s no politics involved.

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        This is an interesting philosophical question, honestly. My own current opinion includes !fuckcars@lemmy.world though, so it doesn’t matter too much.

        According to RationalWiki, Musk “went crazy” ~2018 and <18% of 2025 purchases were <= that year.

        Should someone with a, for example, 2015 model be given the benefit of the doubt? Does it change if it was purchased well after the fact but restored from a wreck by a third party or something, or if it was bought from someone avoiding the reputation?

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      And Twitter users.

      And, perhaps most importantly, the investors who allowed Musk to go from just another moderately wealthy silicone valley dude to the wealthiest person on earth. And the FTC for not throwing him in jail for decades for stock market manipulation.

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        Don’t forget the regulators who let him have a board made up of his friends and family.

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            The SEC no? idk how laws work I am not a lawyer. All I see is if you have a ton of money the legal system does not appear to work at all.

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        Most shareholders don’t have a choice. Pension funds and 401k’s are legally required to own a pool of all stocks which forces them to buy Tesla.

        It’s how Musk got to offload his overpriced SpaceX stock onto the public.

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          They diversify sure. But are they required to have a pool of “all stocks?” (That would be quite a few.) The portfolio managers can choose what to include in the portfolio.

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            All 401(k) are legally required to invest in fortune100 stocks.

            That’s why the normal 3 month delay for getting listed as a fortune100 being reduced to 15 days in the case of SpaceX was a bit of a brouhaha.

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      “But I bought before we knew he was crazy wah wah wah!” /s

      Seriously doesnt help that he buys his way into cool things and spreads his stank on it.

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      Yes! And the Gazan genocide is the fault of Waze users, and Soda stream owners!!!

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      Elon Musk backstabbed tesla owners when he bought twitter and started supporting trump instead of being politically neutral as before. It was a very bad idea for Biden to credit GM for EVs and not include Musk in automaker meetings.

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          What do you suppose the reason was that Musk was excluded from those meetings with all the other corporate interests?

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        Agree on the Biden bit. But think there’s more to it. Saw a new documentary about Elon Musk and the lawsuits against Tesla concerning the failed autopilot, which have killed and injured several people. One of the main points in the movie was that Elon Musk started supporting Trump to put an end to the 3-4 lawsuits, which would have big consequences for Tesla and Musk, which it indeed did when Trump won. To me it sounds like that would also be a pretty big motivation for supporting Trump.

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        Are you suggesting Biden not including him is the reason he turned ultra maga?

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          He stated this himself as one of “the” reasons. No one ever said it was “the” reason. He mentioned many other reasons, but this is “the” reason I agree with.

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          As pathetic as it sounds, yes. There was an abrupt change in Muskrat’s behaviour after that snub. He swung hard towards Republicans immediately after it, and was very very loudly butthurt about it all over social media.

          Should a grown man be that fragile, no.

          But all evidence suggested he indeed was, and part of this hellscape we are in is because Dems shunned Tesla & Musk in a public way and damaged his apparently fragile ego.

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            I seem to recall him starting to go nuts on social media and podcasts long before the Biden administration. But I’m sure such a snub didn’t help things.

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    Musk is a fascist, but I also believe this was not done without the blessing from the US administration after the deal with Putin. They just want to keep it at arms length because of the upcoming midterms

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    Elon Musk has also provided $250M for Trump to get elected, and keeps funding GOP campaigns today.

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    All nations considering use of Starshield or Starlink should pay close attention.

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      if musk is proven to turn off the service at strategic points he could be asserted as enemy/foreign agent. Mind you the service is paid for. Foreign agents not adhering to the rules of war (declaration, wearing uniform) are not subject to geneva conventions and basically “free game” indeed. I dont think he knows what hes getting himself into.

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        the world’s richest man, backed by the full military and economic authority of the united states, israel, and russia, is probably relishing how much “he’s getting himself into.”

        the dude is probably creaming his pants at the thought of being the ancap god he’s always wanted to be.

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      Ukraine should go after

      Like, tie him up to the tip of a missile and send him towards Moscow? ;-)

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        If you tell him the missile is going to Mars, he might board it voluntarily when he’s high on Ketamine.

        (Speaking of Ketamine, isn’t it odd that US based fascist big wigs have such a weird penchant for horse medicine?)

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      Do you think if there is a blue wave and they start holding people accountable, that by proving loyalty he’d have some place to run off to?

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    Ive nev3r seen anyon3 m3ntion th3 parallel between the Volkswagen, Germany and Hitler to the tesla, USA and musk. Why do fascist mov3ments require their own car?

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      Wait till you hear about Hugo Boss and BASF. fascist do not requiring their own cars (or clothing, or paint and zyklon B) fascists get to power with explicit help of the industrialists whenever a countries political leanings turn left wing and the oligarchs are in danger of paying their fair share.

      Ps. What is with the l33t script?

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        Do you mean when the populace leans more left?

        Lol @ the l33t script. I just switched to the pixel with graphene and it doesn’t auto correct like my iPhone did. I just role with the mistakes.