Hi, my name is Pinto Jr.
I can’t believe I need to state the obvious here, but this is over and above all of the other extremely valid objections already raised by others vis-a-vis turning the door you sit right next to into an ersatz Molotov cocktail that weighs an extra fifty pounds.
How is this going to help gas stations become drive “thru?” (I see we still also haven’t learned how to spell “through.”) It’s going to allow the gas station to do what, exactly, stick a nozzle in the side of your car?
That’s already how filling a modern car with fuel works.
(Yes, I specified modern because otherwise at least one pedantic nerd is going to go “well acktshully” and mention any of the various cars from the '60s and '70s which had the filler hidden behind the license plate or brake light or an emblem on the trunk lid or whatever. We already know. Nobody cares.)
Ok this gave me a good chuckle. I then thought “ oh but you could make it so gas station attendants just stand/sit outside and fill up cars as they come “ but then I realized this would also be possible today, and I started laughing even harder. Besides ensuring that every little fender bender ends in painful death, there’s literally 0 purpose to this.
My exact thought. New Jersey already has gas stations as drive-thrus by default!
Pinto door. Also the filler is on the side already
Hate to break it to you, but both “drive-through” and “drive-thru” are considered correct.
Wikipedia refers to “A drive-through or drive-thru (a sensational spelling of the word through)…”
As explained on Erin Wright Writing, “According to our primary American-English dictionaries (Merriam-Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary, Webster’s New World College Dictionary, and The American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language), drive-through is the preferred spelling, while drive-thru is an accepted informal variant. However, the use of drive-thru has become so common that using drive-through now feels incorrect.”
Also keep in mind this is Xitter, where abbreviations are are a normalized (often necessary) part of the lingo.
An idea like this, assuming it’s not ragebait, would probably never leave the confines of this person’s imagination and the AI’s chat history. By the time you get to the point where you would send a design over to a fabrication shop, there would be too much skin in the game for somebody to not speak up about how dumb it is.
But most people like the smell of gasoline, they’ll love being showered in when they get t-boned at an intersection.
Some people would do anything to not get up off their fat arses.
This is rage bait, right? Right?!
of course it’s ai. you will never convince me it isnt determined to exterminate us flesh bags
There’s already a way to make refueling a drive thru, it’s called paying $10 to the gas station man to do it for you.
How lazy do you have to be to not be prepared to get out of your car and stand next to it for two minutes? Presumably when they get home they’re going to get out of the car and walk into their house which is a further distance, when you’re refueling you literally don’t even need to walk the whole length of the car.
New Jersey
Hmmm but the problem with that is someone makes money by doing something, rather than someone I’ll never see making money from owning things.
do these fucking assholes just like think learning about history is stupid or something? like gm literally did this and it was a disaster.
Honestly, I’m surprised someone even tried.
I’m not surprised it was GM
History? Who cares about history? We’re way smarter than those old people. If they were so smart, why are they all dead?
My first thought was the weight of the door now…
Now hold on, isn’t this like airbags, but then with explosive power instead of lame air?
My god, you’re right! Gas tank the airbags!!
Can’t be hurt in a car accident if you’re 50 yards away from it
Taps Forehead
Air bags already have explosives tbf
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Ignoring all the safety concerns. Wouldn’t this make the door heavier and rase the center of gravity. Also where is the window going to retract to. There would need to be multiple tanks all balanced. I don’t think the tank placement is an issue for car designers.
Issue was solved and someone is trying to find a novil idea from AI to justify the cost. LLMS don’t understand what a car door is or what filling the car involves.
Those are perfect valid concerns but I believe the first one would be that you would have a hose running down through a hinge. Over time, leaks are to be expected, that is if you don’t get your car door torn off and end up covered in gasoline.
Also in automobiles doors are expected to absorb the impact of side-collisions, which are very common.
The more one merelly thinks about it beyond the purelly superficial first order perspective, the more reasons pop-up not to have a fuel tank on a door.
Tanks full of liquid do quite well a dispersing energy. Think of water barrels on the US highway. The liquid just needs to be able to escape.
So we just need to make it an open fuel tank. Problem solved.
Wouldn’t it be better to make the fuel tank purposefully explode in case of a collision and direct the energy of the explosion outwards, like reactive armor?
I mean, what could ever go wrong with that idea???
Or, hear me out, add some nozzles that require very high pressure to activate that shoot flames at the thing trying to crash into you to scare it off or burn it up before it has a chance to get through the door. Then accidents will have to think twice–maybe even three times–before they pop up out of nowhere while you’re doing normal everyday things like sneaking through a red light (if you roll slowly enough, you can try to argue that you were pretty much stopped the whole time. It’s not a crime, it’s a great way to save time.)
The first concern would be “why are we designing things for ICE vehicles at all?” There’s no reason to make general-purpose cars any more that aren’t electric.
There is still issues with the electric grid and how people don’t know if they will find a charger. Fast charging and availability at service stations has helped but I would say it takes a while to fully convert a population to a new technology. Ice cars also have issues like wild pricing and availability in some remote areas but people have settled themselves with them.
Mostly because people buy them. Because they’re convenient.
Why are we designing a surveillance state? Because we can.
Do you think modern ICE cars don’t have the same surveillance features? Surveillance isn’t an inherent part of electric cars
It’s not even novel, in a sense. On planes the fuel is stored mainly in the wings. This feels like an extrapolation of that.
True but the wings are still structural and have the engines on them. Considering how much fual a jet needs you would struggle to find another place to put it. For a car there isn’t the same struggle to find a space and if it’s a small car you can make a smaller tank and stop more.
Planes what??
STORE FUEL IN THE WINGS
So the wings are like the balls of the plane? I always wondered why they were there. I guess electric planes wouldn’t need them and would be able to fly through tunnels, which could help reaching areas with mountains in the way.
I think AI should know that already because they basically just use all previous human knowledge unless a weak model was used for this
LLM’s don’t know anything.
They have no capacity for thought or introspection. It receives an input and selects tokens that match an expected output. That’s it. Yes it has been fed the entirety of human knowledge to be able to do this. But that’s like a human memorizing the entire mandarin alphabet but never learning mandarin. An Al just makes a sentence that looks right, or generates an image that matches the tokens in a prompt. I could make a mandarin sentence with random symbols, and it might even say something. Doesn’t mean I speak mandarin.
Aren’t we the same though? We don’t really know anything until we learn or train ourselves with knowledge? It’s just that LLMs only do this per prompt.
Yesn’t. What LLMs lack and causes these idiotic suggestions is context from mediums other than language. If you get down to it humans talking are also just trying to predict what should come next, but we predict this from more input than just text. Particularly with something like design, we come up with the design and then the text and maybe concept art to describe it. The llm comes up with a description that seems likely and then feeds it to a diffusion model to make an image to go with the text.
Basically, the problem is input, but AFAIK a lot of AIs now are multi modal. Yes they can make up stuff but if you steer it to the right direction with proper context or inputs, it can help build. Maybe what you’re talking about is AIs can’t choose rather than think. They can think. Albeit, they can’t choose only because of the guardrails. So, you are the user chooses to steer it to what you want
LLMs can be multimodal now. You can chuck a screenshot into claude code or whatever you use and the image generation process can also be done by the LLM itself rather than an external tool call as far as I know
Keeping aside the obvious hazard, what exactly was going on in this guys head? How does putting tank inside doors help?
If you’re gonna have someone filling your tank for you, can’t they just walk to the back of the car? That’s how it’s done here in the first place
I also had to think for a minute, I guess it’s to avoid the horror of having to step out of your car for one minute?
Yeah, but the exact same effect can be achieved by just having the intake to fill the tank on the door and then a hose down to the fuel tank since you would need a hose going that way anyway since it if wasn’t from the intake to the tank it would be from the tank to the engine.
That’s gotta be amongst the worst “solutions” imaginable for that convenience “problem”.
Ff I think I get it. Do they think fuel tank needs to be in door so they can take the nossle and fuel it from inside?
Bruh firstly, you don’t need to put the entire fuel tank in the door for that. Secondly, it’s pretty stupid to think grabbing anything outside the car while being inside the car is going to be a comfortable experience.
What was this guy thinking?
What was this guy thinking?
AI bros don’t do that - they delegate their “thinking” to the statistical text parrot.
That is clearly his desire but how does it enable a drive through gas station unlike the safe way? That is my confusion.
high quality of life or die trying
All this negativity… I, for one, for endorse this for those who love Ai. Don’t listen to the nay-sayers, guys! Go build this for your car, and do it soon!
This is like when people said the Cybertruck wasn’t amphibious. What a bunch of idiots. Of course it is, and everyone who listened to those idiots missed out on a primary feature of that vehicle for the gods. That finisher car.
It’s like the famous saying, “If you want to do something that might be dangerous, it’s best to do it very quickly so that the danger doesn’t have enough time to pop up.” Einstein gave his life proving this principle, so the least we can do is quote it as much as possible because big danger is trying to bury it so they can stay relevant in today’s economy.
Wait until these guys find out about New Jersey
