The Mamdani Act would amend existing immigration law to prohibit the admission and naturalization of any noncitizen who is or was a member of, affiliated with, or advocates for a Chinese communist, communist, socialist, Islamic fundamentalist or other totalitarian party—or any organization that advocates those ideologies. Under its deportation provisions, a noncitizen already in the United States could be removed if they engage in advocacy for socialism, communism, Marxism or Islamic fundamentalism, distribute or publish material promoting those ideologies or hold membership in affiliated organizations at any point after admission.

You know he is a much needed anti-toxin, especially when they name a bill after him. Let the healing begin.

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    Mamdani is the closest thing to a left wing politician America has been exposed to (to my European eyes he seems center-left), and the whole of the US is going completely ballistic about it.

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        A fortnightly somewhat comedic podcast also recommended that progressive politicians should follow his campaign style, focusing mostly on economic policies to help everyday policies. I wouldn’t call them experts or anything, but they claimed a few other politicians doing the same thing had promising results (they didn’t state specific examples).

        But yeah, lots of Americans do like at least some of what he’s doing, but those usually aren’t anyone near power.

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      “I have here in my hand a list of 205 that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party and who nevertheless are still working and shaping policy in the State Department.”

      “Or maybe it’s 57… or 10… maybe.”

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      Oh they learned, hence why we have Fox News and half of the government that will refuse to hold the worst US President ever accountable for his blatant acts of fraud and embezzlement.

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        Not just “giving up”, there are large portions who think McCarthy’s mistake was not simply murdering everyone who appeared before HUAC. My own father-in-law doesn’t really want these to be any form of actual “we wanna know what’s going on” trials, he just wants this to be all but a summary execution.

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    Reminder for anyone still confused. American conservatives are actual, real-life fascists.

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            I mean where have you been? If laws and rules no longer had any meaning then why is the administration being forced to give back the tariff money and repeal them? Why was the admistration forced to re-hire thousands of federal employees it illegally terminated? Why was the national gaurd forced to leave several cities?

            These were all decided by the courts and the administration complied. I’m not saying compliance is perfect, and I’m not saying the administration isn’t trying to do very undemocratic things. But clearly there is still some rule of law.

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              The prevailing sentiment from the Lemmy community is that Trump is completely unstoppable and we should all just give up and accept his tyranny.

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                Or perhaps sentiment is that the institutions empowered to stop him are unwilling to do so because they are captured by capital… and that we all need to put people into power who won’t betray the people and who are willing to do something with that power to help everyone else… and perhaps work to restructure things so that the system works in favor of the working class instead of incrementally submitting to the will of capital until we are all wage slaves begging for table scraps from gold leafed shit stains like Musk and Bezos.

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                The prevailing sentiment is that they’re extremely dangerous, do a lot of evil, and need to be stopped. The prevailing answer to that is “Oh, you’re overreacting, they’re perfectly stoppable, so you don’t need to worry about anything. Don’t forget to never vote under any circumstances because voting is useless and doesn’t work”

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              And what difference does it make? They don’t uphold your silly court orders with every opportunity they get, and having full hold on power, they have a lot of those opportunities.

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                Got any examples or are you just a useful idiot spreading hopelessness? It sounds like you don’t actually follow court cases in the USA, or don’t understand how our legal system works.

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                  Just assume the people who drink the Kool aid are propagandists or bots serving the same purpose.

                  If not, they’re just useful idiots.

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      any organization that advocates those ideologies” is so god damn unconstitutional, it is not even funny

      -Republicans

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    Mamdani is a centrist, he isn’t left. But since the Republicans are alt right and the Democrats are right, they consider everything else to be far left and label anything that isn’t right as communist. They don’t know what communism is. Even Trump labeled people communist nazis. Communists and nazis are the opposite of eachother. Americans are so, so fucking dumb.

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          Yes to people outside the US.

          The Democratic party is centrist by pretty much every measure (especially outside the US), but Mamdani is a leftist.

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        If he would be a politician in my country he would he centrist, maybe a fraction on the left of the centre. But if the rest in the US is either right or alt right, I get that he looks really left. But his political views are similar to our centrist politicians.

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      Not even communist seems to know what communism is anymore considering China has went full on fascist as well as being an oligarchy for the last 70 years.

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        Mate, the USSR wasn’t even communist. Because communism doesn’t have a government run by elites and a dictator as a sole leader. It’s a wrong interpretation of what communism actually is, because bad people see a way to abuse the system to gain wealth and power. This is what happens everywhere. Rotten apples do not play fair and because of that always have an advantage in gaining positions of power. This happens everywhere. The USSR, China, modern day Russia, the US, etc.

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          Yes, that makes complete sense. Almost like democracy/socialism/communism is really just rhetoric for power and control.

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            No it’s not. They are concepts of how to have a society. They are different structures. The biggest issue with them is that in most cases they didn’t take into account the systems can be abused. Its hard to avoid abuse and corruption, as the systems are very complex. The more complex, the more opportunities there are for people to exploit.

            I can’t remember who it was. But some wise person said that people applying for jobs that hold power, should automatically be rejected. The only people who should have those jobs should be dragged against their will and put there, and should only be allowed to leave when they did good.

            Next to that I believe people with those jobs should have proper background checks, psychological tests and IQ tests. And they should always be held accountable for their actions.

            I think this is necessary to have systems like communism and democracy work somewhat decently, with a reduced chance of abuse of power. But I prefer anarchism, where there are no country borders, no huge huge governments who dictate their rules but small communities who manage themselves the way that works best for them.

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              I think we are splitting hairs here. I get you believe these concepts exist outside of reality as an ideal. I just don’t see it that way anymore. They are just excuses powerful and well connected people use to create the consent of the governed. The propaganda if you will.

              We are “democratic socialist state” or we are “unitary communist state” is inconsequential to the reality of policy and how the government(s) actually work.

              I agree with the reasoning that those who want power should not have it and those who don’t want power generally make better leaders as far as creating policies that benefit society as a whole. As opposed to just special interest groups.

              We would have to create an new form of government that was designed to resist corruption instead of embracing it to change this all to common dynamic.

              Having a pool of qualified and randomly selected individuals for representation is one idea I have heard. I think we need a truly radical approach to shake off the olgiarchies that the world is currently controlled by.

              Just like democracy, communism, socialism, anarchism, etc these ideals are just that. Unless we can translate these ideals to actual passed and enforced policies they are nothing but lip service.

              Call me jaded, but with the ever increasing worldwide wealth gaps no system has any answers and the few examples of anarchism, such as Rojava, have already been absorbed by the state.

              It seems anarchism could only exist in a vacuum which points out the need to develop a real set of enforceable and attainable policies to make it work alongside a state actor.

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        If the only 2 parties are both right, anything else looks left. It’s a matter of contrast. But Mamdani is centre on the political spectrum, maybe slightly on the left but definitely not far.

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    Don’t pay attention to this, it’s going nowhere, it’s weak propaganda to distract from the Epstein Files and the ArmerIsraeli War®.

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      it’s weak propaganda

      Chip Roy is running for AG in Texas. It’s less “weak propaganda” and more “a policy he would like to implement if elected to statewide office.” If I was a Muslim in Texas, I’d be keenly aware of what he was proposing.

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        Fortunately, even the corrupted judges seem to have trouble assailing the First Amendment directly so far. What would really be nice, though, would be if these laws could be stopped on the drawing board rather than having to be challenged in court every time. If a high schooler could win the court case, it should not have to be one.

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      I dunno, seems kinda like something to pay attention to. Do you guys do anything? Or is sitting on your hands making up reasons to ignore shit like this just more fun than I thought it to be?

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    Yeah, no. I’d much rather have all the MAGA deported. It would really make this country 10 times better overnight. Much less murder and crime instantly.

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      Banning socialists

      Not just socialists, “Islamists”. This guy is running for AG in a state with Muslims making up around 2% of the population. Many of them are highly educated professionals looking to form full blow communities of like-minded people.