• Lizardking13@lemmy.world
      7·
      1 month ago

      It’s just as bad of an echo chamber as other sites. I have to actively “stop” browsing lemmy after a bit because I get annoyed at the repetitive nature of everything.

      I’ve very much tried in the last few years to limit social media. I think it’s been a benefit for me. I like social media, but having “stops” makes it more enjoyable and prevents the doom feelings.

  • ter_maxima@jlai.lu
    601·
    1 month ago

    Not enough people for even slightly niche communities. Wanna talk about smash brothers ? 732 people, only 2 posts in the last month.

    This is why people still use reddit on the side.

  • jet@hackertalks.comEnglish
    54·
    1 month ago

    Niche communities. Large spaces are built of small niche interest groups. The tooling around small spaces needs to be first class if we want the larger space to be healthy

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      2·
      1 month ago

      same, certain things location based subs are not found on lemmy, and youtuber channel based discussions also not found here. plus things like like health, medical,etc. movies/entertainment has enough to satisfy people, but not to the extent as on reddit.

  • cm0002@lemmy.world
    576·
    1 month ago

    The lemmy.ml instance not being treated the same as the rest of the Triad in regards to defederation

    Some highlights from the link:

    "Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167

    “See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342

    .ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558

    CW: Original transphobic Comment from Nutomic

    “NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035

    General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510

    “If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415

    And a long list of bans/censorship and allowing the proliferation of known propaganda and misinformation outlets clearly demonstrating use of their instance and recognition to force a political narrative

    • Mearuu@kbin.melroy.org
      282·
      1 month ago

      I am currently working on a report on vote manipulation and the early results are showing clear signs of the some most prolific .ml accounts participating in brigading and vote manipulation.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
        111·
        1 month ago

        I can’t count the number of times I made a comment way deep in a chain that conflicts with .ml dogma, and after the first downvote, there are suddenly 5 more within minutes

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        21·
        1 month ago

        that was so pervasive on reddit, you either get banned, or ended up arguing more and then get banned.

        • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          6·
          1 month ago

          I think the parent comment is talking about piefed the software, compared to Lemmy the software, not the specific piefed.social instance they’re posting from.

            • exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              3·
              1 month ago

              The developers of the Lemmy software are the admins of the lemmy.ml instance and are problematic. The complaint is that the software itself can’t be separated from the priorities of the .ml instance.

              Piefed doesn’t have the same issue, even if the flagship instance federates with .ml

    • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      1 month ago

      i block the whole instance, so i dont have to deal with any of those posts, but the single .ml accounts can still be problematic.

  • intelisense@lemm.ee
    481·
    1 month ago

    Duplicate communities posting the same content over and over again.

    Communities are tied to an instance. How many communities will die because lemm.ee is shutting down? There is a slightly mad rush to migrate communities already.

    Lemmy should have used usent style naming for communities.

  • 6nk06@sh.itjust.works
    351·
    1 month ago

    The lack of content compared to reddit. If you look at !learn_programming@programming.dev for example, there is only one post this week, and 4 posts this month. How is it that, with all the web developers and AI vibe coding shit, no one is actually asking questions?

    When I was on reddit, I had to hide posts because there were 10 or 20 interesting questions every day.

    • Nosavingthrow@lemmy.world
      17·
      1 month ago

      It’s a negative feedback loop. There is a good chance programmers asking questions NEED the answer (homework, work-work) so they don’t risk asking in low pop forums, making the forum low pop because there are no questions.

  • squaresinger@lemmy.world
    243·
    1 month ago

    Issues that would be solved by time/gaining more users

    • Not nearly enough people to cover all the niche interest communities that Reddit does. At Reddit you find an expert on almost any topic to help you with your problems and you’ll find information on pretty much anything. Lemmy isn’t there yet.
    • Not nearly enough history. A lot of content is still good and informative after many years. Lemmy doesn’t have a library of old-but-still-relevant content to search.

    Issues independent of user count

    • Search sucks. Reddit’s search does too, but reddit is easily searchable via Google. Lemmy isn’t.
    • Onboarding is difficult, because you have to choose an instance, which is hugely important, but a newcomer has no idea what makes/is a good community to join

    Issues that get worse with more users (aka, the potentially deal-breaking issues)

    • Lemmy scales terribly. Every larger instance needs to retain a copy of pretty much all other content out there, and each comment/like/delete/update/… needs to be propagated to every other major instance out there. Adding more instances thus increases complexity and cost instead of decreasing it. Running a major lemmy instance is already prohibitively expensive now, with just about 50k monthly active users. If Lemmy was to scale to Reddit numbers (1.1 billion monthly active users, roughly 22 000x the number of users), everything would just break down.
    • Moderation work scales just as terribly. Not only does an admin need to make sure the communities on their instance are moderated, but they also need to moderate all other communities on all other instances.
    • Related to the last point, there’s some legal issues as well if an admin doesn’t moderate all other instances. Since content is copied from other instances to your instance, illegal content (e.g. illegal pornography, copyrighted works, …) are also copied to your own server without your active participation. That makes it legally mandatory to moderate all other communities.
    • Legal pitfalls in general. If lemmy becomes sizeable enough, all sorts of laws in regards to social media platforms will apply. That’s one thing if the social media platform is run by a huge corporation with a legal department, but it’s an entirely different story for a tiny group of non-profit idealists running the social media platform.
      • squaresinger@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 month ago

        That’s honestly not very helpful.

        • It’s not exactly at a place where someone joins lemmy. Most people likely join via downloading an app, and if they are lucky that app links them to join-lemmy.org, and more often than not, it doesn’t link them anywhere and just asks them to either select an instance from a dropdown without further information or it asks them to enter an instance name from memory.
        • The advice is very questionable and not really helpful without context.
        • Lemmy.world is too big

        There are Lemmy-reasons for why that’s a problem, but in any other context, the biggest is the best. And even in regards to lemmy, bigger instances have a higher chance to remain, to be decently moderated and to be decently stable. Before joining Lemmy.world, I was on Feddit.de, and we all know how that ended. And even before they vanished without a warning or an explanation, Feddit.de servers were always outdated, slow and unreliable, and moderation was arbitrary at best and non-existent at worst.

        Lemmy.world is stable and works just as expected.

        That’s a somewhat decent reasoning, though not immediately understandable as a new user. And not relevant anymore because Lemm.ee will shutdown within a week or so from now.

        • sh.itjust.works names contains “shit”, which can deter users

        Thanks, I’m adult enough to know whether I’m offended by the word “shit”.

        lemmy.ca is Canadian-centric feddit.org, is German-centric, but technically English speaking too programming.dev is topic-centric blahaj is queer-focused infosec.pub is topic-centric aussie.zone is country-centric midwest.social is region-centric

        None of that really matters thanks to federation.

        dbzer0 federates hexbear

        Like Lemm.ee, apart from the fact that it still exists

        beehaw is way outdated

        That’s some relevant reasoning.

        sopuli.xyz (neutral name

        See also:

        discuss.tchncs.de has a difficult name

        Sopuli.xyz isn’t any easier than discuss.tchnics.de, and jet discuss.tchnics.de was excluded for the name only.

        While down in the comments it says

        Sopuli doesn’t support gifs

        Which is a really hard reason to avoid that instance, much more so than “has a difficult name”. That’s got much more practical implications.

        But what’s left regardless is: Even that link that is supposed to make instance selection easier isn’t exactly easy to understand for a newcomer.

        Relevant XKCD:

        • Blaze (he/him) @lemmy.dbzer0.com
          1·
          1 month ago

          ut what’s left regardless is: Even that link that is supposed to make instance selection easier isn’t exactly easy to understand for a newcomer.

          Newcomers are supposed to just read

          " Lemmy has 47k monthly active users

          https://discuss.online/ if you want a server located in the USA (content is still accessible from any server, the most difference latency)
https://sopuli.xyz/ if you want a server located in the EU
https://vger.app/settings/install if you want an app

          Feel free if you have any questions "

          The rest was up for debate, feel free to copy paste your comment in that thread so that other people can see it as well

  • HeyJoe@lemmy.world
    19·
    1 month ago

    As everyone has pointed out, people and content. Its good in some ways since not every post is drowned out with one thousand replies nobody will ever see, but at the same time, you’re not getting much of anything at all sometimes. Not even very niche ones either. Even groups that represent entire states has limited info or replies still. If it can grow to that size and see some more unique and local content more I think even that would be a much better place for it to be.

    • JakoJakoJako13@piefed.socialEnglish
      8·
      1 month ago

      Yeah this is my issue with it. I can find all the arts, Linux, and political stuff just fine. Sports, music, and places communities are seriously lacking. They exist, but are a shell of what you’d hope they’d be. Engagement is so low, it’s not worth bothering. The sports and music communities being so small and sparse is a real bummer.

      • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
        2·
        1 month ago

        This is more to do with most Lemmy users being shut-in nerds not inclined to sports tbh.

    • Skavau@piefed.socialEnglish
      2·
      1 month ago

      To be frank, in many cases communities were simply picked up by the wrong people who proceeded to not actively feed it with content. So they simply die.

  • redsunrise@programming.devEnglish
    18·
    1 month ago

    The lack of continuous and backlogged content. For some this is a benefit because it gives them a reason to stop scrolling, but for others who come here to look for answers, find entertainment, or anonymously voice their opinions, this can be something of a downside.

    Of course this platform is as anonymous as you make it, but I’ve seen some people say they refrain from commenting more often because they don’t want to be known as a regular, instead wanting to “blend in to the crowd” as one would on more populous sites like Reddit or Twitter.

  • NonFamousHistorian@lemmy.world
    191·
    1 month ago

    The same issue Bluesky and other app-killer platforms have/had at the start: momentum. Momentum explains everything else. If you leave out the vapid content on Reddit, it’s still the premier place for asking questions and getting them answered by enthusiastic amateurs or actual experts in the field. The moment Lemmy gets the same quality tech support and DIY responses, it will have its place. Or, like with Bluesky, Reddit needs to become as alienating and disgusting as X became after the Elon takeover.

    • myrmidex@belgae.socialEnglish
      143·
      1 month ago

      That’s the beauty about Lemmy, it’s not too reliant on momentum as it doesn’t need graphs to go up at all times. The fediverse will always be a refuge when other platforms crumble. We’ll just have to be patient and make sure the platform and the communities are as good as they can be at that point in time.

      • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
        61·
        1 month ago

        This is how I see it too. Freedom from the toxic ad-supported business model is a slow-burning superpower.

        • CybranM@feddit.nu
          2·
          1 month ago

          Until the people hosting the servers need money to run them, usually the problem when these kinds of idealistic websites grow

    • hexonxonx@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      31·
      1 month ago

      Reddit is useless for questions. If you’re a subject-matter expert in something, find the subreddit for it and prepare to be horrified.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        1·
        1 month ago

        I had to give my friend this news some years ago, to no avail. Sooo many upvoted “answers” on Reddit are just confidantly incorrect BS. It’s also trivial to find reddit answers from general search results instead of limiting your search to just Reddit.

        • Stovetop@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 month ago

          There was a small window where Reddit could be used to find good answers to things, but that ship sailed long ago.

          As soon as the site started to become popular in the mid 2010’s, every “expert” was someone who maybe once took a related class in college, or think sharing their girlfriend’s uncle’s neighbor’s relevant story means they have the definitive answer.

          “Hello Reddit, does anyone else catch themselves acting differently between family and friends?”

          “As someone who once took a psychology class in college, your symptoms are 100% aligned with dissociative identity disorder, and you should seek help immediately.”

      • Ledericas@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        1 month ago

        i usually search for what has been asked and answered, asking questions now in many subs, is only inviting trouble from gatekeepers, know it alls , and lastly astroturfing.

  • NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone
    16·
    1 month ago

    Niche communities. Also, attempts at niche communities getting dogpiled by everyone else (no, “this administration” really doesn’t have anything to do with the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre.)

  • 9point6@lemmy.world
    16·
    1 month ago

    User volume and diversity is probably the main thing right now.

    We just need more people posing shit, the fact that one or two users can dominate my feed if they choose to is not ideal. (Though often I appreciate the content anyway)

    The diversity aspect is around how we have a lot of people in a small handful of demographics on here. It’s getting better every day, but the thing that made Reddit great before they ruined it was everything you could think of had a community of people posing stuff about it, doesn’t matter how niche.

    One leads to the other though, more users naturally will mean increasingly diverse interests in our userbase.

    It’s about time Reddit fucked something else up anyway, it’s been a few months

  • selkiesidhe@lemm.ee
    13·
    1 month ago

    I have trouble finding um what are they called here… Communities?.. for the subjects I’m interested in. When I search, all I find is old posts or unrelated posts.

    That’s my biggest problem

  • BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee
    12·
    1 month ago

    not enough of my niche interests from reddit moved here. also the sports communities are a little bit like ghost towns