Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.

Estonia announced that the country may be forced to close its border crossing points with Russia due to increased migration pressures, Estonian Police and Border Guard announced on Feb. 13.

“In recent weeks, Russia has deliberately directed to the Estonian border groups of foreigners lacking the legal right to enter the European Union,” the statement reads. “If these activities continue, we will be forced to close border crossing points to protect national security and public order, as has already been done in Finland due to migration pressure.”

The Estonian government has noted an influx of migrants and asylum seekers from Russia over recent months.

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  • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    413·
    9 months ago

    I’m sorry for what you and your country are going through, but it doesn’t mean you know anything about how powerful and entrenched the Russian government is. Clearly.

    If I were living in Eastern Ukraine, I would have wished them all dead.

    The ones LEAVING Russia to AVOID the war? They’ve never done anything against you.

    • Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
      72·
      9 months ago

      I thank God every day that this Ukrainian has you to educate him on the nuances of Ukrainian/Russian politics.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.worldEnglish
        37·
        9 months ago

        Being Ukrainian doesn’t make it any less wrong to assume that it’s easy to overthrow Putin and demand that refugees should stay in countries that are likely to kill them and/or force them to kill others.

        • Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
          42·
          9 months ago

          Maybe, but your faith that Putin’s power is absolute, that he is immune to being overthrown is just as flawed.

          Why is his table so long? Why has he done several brutal purges of his personal guard? Why has he installed members of his personal guard to high ranking military posts?

          These are the actions of a man who looks into a crystal ball and says “wow, getting crushed by a popular uprising is on the menu for me”

          Recal how few rednecks it takes to storm a capital building. Recall the relative density of rednecks in Russia.

          I’m glad that you have complete faith that an uprising couldn’t topple Putin’s regime. You should tell Putin, I think he would find incredible comfort in your expert analysis.

          And you need to understand the how flat your words must fall on the ears of those who literally have participated in such an uprising as you brush off as impossible.

          I agree with you that harming refugees is bad. That discussion sits in the domain of humanitarian ethics, something that I think we all have the prerequisite knowledge for, assuming we have the capacity for human empathy.

          On the topic of uprising against a Russian leader, I think you need to accept that your armchair assessment has been informed by a significant amount of propeganda from either side, and that you might not be as much an authority as you might imagine yourself

          • purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.orgEnglish
            36·
            9 months ago

            He never said that it is impossible to overthrow him, he said that it is very difficult. Which is objectively true. Putin is a leader of a superpower, he has nukes for god’s sake. This other user is claiming that because they overthrow their president that they could also overthrow a dictator that has been in power for dacades consolidating his power and controls a huge military aresenal at his disposal.

            Furthermore. this user from Ukraine, that of course we all simpatize on terms of being at war, has clearly belived in anti-russian racist propaganda so much that he belives that people in Russia are not forced to go to war, but are volenrarly getting shot at in war just because they are so evil and want to kill as many Ukranians as possible. They clearly stated that they live lives just as comfortable as before 2014, and doesn’t understand that they are under santctions and has no understanding of what santions actually do to a population.

            • Windex007@lemmy.worldEnglish
              32·
              9 months ago

              Do you think the USA being a nuclear power informed Jan 6? Do you think nuclear weapons informed Wagner’s march to Moscow?

              Why would a dictator comfortable with their claim feel the need to keep other people off the ballot? Why were civilians forced to create highway obstructions for Wagner?

              The stranglehold on power isn’t as complete as Putin wants people to believe, and he knows it.

              The barrier is will, not capacity.

              • purplepuppy@links.hackliberty.orgEnglish
                33·
                9 months ago

                Are you really comparing Jan 6 to fight against Putin? Do you know that leader of main opposition in Russia is in jail for simply being in opposition? Trump is still not in jail after a coup. Of course he can be removed from power, but don’t be ridicoulous with claims that people are just lazy or not brave enough. If you even start to organize to critique the goverment in Russia, you go to jail. It is a lot harder to actually form a movement when they arrest you so fast, as soon as you say that you are displeased, let along actually try to form a group for protest, let along an armed revolution. Of course it is possible, but lets not be ignorant and compare it to other regimes.