I own 1 Gas car (Subaru) at a 2nd home (Wyoming) that we have spent a total 1 month so far this year and it has cost me more in gas than owning and charging 2 EV’s (California) full-time.
Please tell me again the advantages of owning a gas car again?
The advantage of a gas car was and will be for the next couple of years: access to parts and access to gas stations. There’s a gas station every exit. There isn’t a fast charger every exit is there?
I drive an EV, but the reality of it is that road tripping sucks balls in an EV compared to an ICE. Sure, it’s gotten a lot better, but anyone saying that it’s on par with ICE is tripping. A lot of places just completely lack EV infrastructure.
According to ABRP, I can’t leave my city with my 2012 24kwh Leaf. Even a 40kwh Leaf wouldn’t make it. Has to be the 60+ kwh Leaf to make it.
Charging infrastructure has a long way to go.
Seeing as your car is a technological dead end, it’s probably going to never change for a Chademo Leaf. You should look into adaptors, or realistically, a better car if you need to go between cities.
The Leaf was just a fun experiment that ended up completely changing my outlook on electric cars. I’ll use ICE for longer trips until I can save up enough to buy a newer EV.
The chademo port is dead. Nobody installs them anymore in Europe so leafs are mostly being relegated to intra city driving. CCS2 is everywhere though.
They’re still installing them here in Norway. Not as many as the CCS chargers, but there’s at least one or two dual CHADEMO/CCS charger at every location going up. There’s nearly 100K Leafs alone here, and quite a few other EVs that also use CHADEMO.
My 2014 Berlingo has a 22.5KWh battery, and I have no problems getting around. It just takes a bit longer than with other cars if I want to drive far. Which really doesn’t happen all that often.
Cars with CHADEMO may be a small part of traffic, but they stop to charge more often than other EVs. That’s a fact that many suppliers seem to forget.
In the 160 miles between my city and the next city, there’s only 1 chademo location. But there’s also only 1 CCS and 2 Supercharger locations. And the 2 superchargers are pretty close to each other. There are 7 gas stations within 1/2 mile of the highway exit that the chargers are at.
Don’t worry. Others tried leaving your city, and they had to stop when the surroundings became too pixelated. Your car is just better aligned for the simulation.
Hm. I wonder which movie that was. 13th floor, perhaps?
The number of chargers makes no difference at all if you can reach one before you run out of juice. They can install one on every exit and all it means you will be passing many before you need one. But you still need to exit freeway, find a charger, charge for a long time and then get back on freeway. And you have to do it many more times than if you drive ICE with a range, lets say 500 miles. What matters is the range. If you have the range you don’t need many chargers. That is the right solution.
Road-tripping experience in an EV varies greatly depending on location and EV. Having done several trips from NY to Florida, New England, and Midwest in my Tesla, there has been no ball sucking whatsoever.
lol exactly. All the EV folk complaining about charging and here I am wondering wtf they talking about. Then I realize they’re almost 100% non-Tesla EVs.
I know this sounds snobbish but it is true: Tesla Supercharging makes roadtrips a dream.
Having a Tesla with a CCS charger has been blowing my mind recently.
I drove through the mountains recently in Colorado. I was thinking of where to charge and pulled up plugshare and realized between the superchargers and one-off CCS chargers, I had a charger at every other exit for a 120 mile stretch. That’s actually more frequent than gas stations for that stretch.
The future is coming. Just less quickly if you have a CCS-only car.
Haha CO is getting better. Though if you’re going to the southern part of the state, there’s a pretty big black hole south of Salida with basically zero SC or CCS. It’s fine if you’re road tripping through it, but requires more intensive planning if you’re going in to hit up a trailhead.