Usually yes, your team is winning by proxy. If City bullies the Premier League while being the best in the world as well it says something different about your team than if they constantly were knocked out of the CL group stage. Plus there is no team I despise more than Real Madrid and they are usually the alternative to an English team winning so…

It is interesting though as that is also how Arteta started his Arsenal career. Tightening the defence while our scoring dropped a lot compared to how it was during the Emery era.

A slight issue is of course that they are not independent of each other, asserting more control through reduced risk also gives less rewards. I guess that it’s about finding the right balance though.

Wasn’t Djouro quite good during the 10/11 season or possibly the one after?

Djouro and Senders as well.