I think Senderos yes, but in my memory Djourous best performances was him not being an absolute liability whereas I remember thinking Senderos actually had some solid matches.
Senderos did too, he started the fa cup final we won against united and also during the CL run to the final when we set a record for most consecutive clean sheets. He just had a few awful games getting bullied by Drogba in particular and his confidence completely went away.
His career arc was honestly closer to someone like Rob Holding than some of these other players who were terrible from match 1.
Genuinely like Mustafi was nowhere near great by any means, but I put him alongside the likes of Holdinho as ‘alright’. I think a lot of people just take the few big errors and automatically think he was abysmal, when he was just mediocre
I think a Holding comparison is a bit of a disservice. Mustafi was one of the weird contradictions that was generally a very good defender that was confoundingly prone to errors in the premier league. Holding has been generally a consistent performer not prone to massive mental lapses but his ceiling is just not high enough and he gets bullied by better front lines.
Mustafi actually had some decent periods at least.
He was the player with the most consistent headers on the squad for a bit. Also lunged into too many mistakes.
Djouro and Senders as well.
I think Senderos yes, but in my memory Djourous best performances was him not being an absolute liability whereas I remember thinking Senderos actually had some solid matches.
Wasn’t Djouro quite good during the 10/11 season or possibly the one after?
Senderos did too, he started the fa cup final we won against united and also during the CL run to the final when we set a record for most consecutive clean sheets. He just had a few awful games getting bullied by Drogba in particular and his confidence completely went away.
His career arc was honestly closer to someone like Rob Holding than some of these other players who were terrible from match 1.
Drogba proper ended Senderos, just destroyed him
Genuinely like Mustafi was nowhere near great by any means, but I put him alongside the likes of Holdinho as ‘alright’. I think a lot of people just take the few big errors and automatically think he was abysmal, when he was just mediocre
I think a Holding comparison is a bit of a disservice. Mustafi was one of the weird contradictions that was generally a very good defender that was confoundingly prone to errors in the premier league. Holding has been generally a consistent performer not prone to massive mental lapses but his ceiling is just not high enough and he gets bullied by better front lines.
Especially when David Luiz I feel was so much worse, he was a red waiting to happen most games
Problem is, everytine he had a good game in 17 and 18 he got a freaking fifa team of the weekcard.