Based on what then he will drop them? Raya looks like a lost child in crucial moments. He may be better than Rams statistically, but he doesn’t look very good to the eye and it’s hard to trust him at the decisive moment
I’ll keep saying it. Mudryk goal was a fluke - not an error.
The more noticeable error was Raya giving it straight to Palmer in the 2nd half where luckily nothing came from it
Raya is going to keep making those mistakes because his short distribution is not as good as Ramsdale’s. We’ve traded a long distribution problem for a short distribution problem, but I think Arteta figures that Raya’s shot stopping and defending from set pieces will make up for that.
Personally I think Ramsdale was good at defending set pieces until the World Cup when he broke his knuckle and you could see that he couldn’t punch the ball and was hesitating a lot, and as a shot stopper Ramsdale might not be the best but we’ll experience less shots if we’re more comfortable playing out from the back and retaining possession that way. His long distribution was also better when he first joined, I don’t know why he became inconsistent but if he can get that back I think he can earn his place back. What Raya lacks I don’t think he can ever learn - you either know how to pick out the best pass or you don’t, that comes from Ramsdale’s time as a midfielder which Raya will never have.
one of the most ridiculous comments here. Raya completes a higher volume and higher percentage of short passes than Ramsdale. This is a fact you can easily look up so stop spouting shite lol
Yeah I have never seen a keeper blamed for a goal like that before. It is always just accepted as a fluke and people move on.
Anyone blaming Raya for the Mudryk goal is either a moron or has an agenda.
Mudryk’s goal was a fluke in that he 100% meant it to be a cross but Raya also made the error of being so far out of his goal in the first place. Had the ball gone to the player at the back post as intended, Raya never would’ve been able to make up the ground.
That wasn’t an error, that’s his playing style, it’s the reason why he’s so much better on crosses than Ramsdale.
100% a fluke, he crossed it on the left with his left foot. Typically that type of cross to bend into the goal is not likely, it should bend away from goal.
Mudryk hit the ball wrong which just made it perfectly cross/lob over the keeper. People shitting on Raya because of this are just doing it because
We’re in a unique situation with our keepers so the magnifying glass is on them but every single keeper in the world makes mistakes when playing out the back, frequently. Some mistakes go punished some don’t. Alison who’s hailed as one of the best keepers in the world, makes mistakes. Vicario, who people are rating extremely highly, made a couple mistakes just last night, one with which Willian should probably have punished.
Is it just me or is no one really mentioning Brighton who are rotating keepers atm. Feels like that tactic is going way under the radar
Apparently it’s easier and more fun to call out Arteta for lying about wanting to do it than to talk about someone actually doing it.
When you play for either Arsenal or Man United you get put under a magnifying glass. Everything you do is overanalysed.
Like Brighton got thrashed 6-1 by Aston Villa and in their next match against Man City pundits/journalist were talking about how De Zerbi could be the next Man City manager etc. Brighton have had some shocking performances this season, but it gets swept under the rug.
It was a fluke but Rayas starting position is terrible. Hes literally 3 or 4 yards in front of his front post. If Mudryk crossed it deep he wouldve had to really scramble to get back into position
Watch it back. Pause at the moment Mudryk tries to cross. If you really think thats a good starting position then theres no point even arguing here
For your convenience
The Mudryk goal was a fluke AND an error.
At the point Mudryk hits the cross, Raya is about 4-5 yards of his line (which is fine) but well outside his near post. That is just objectively poor goal keeper positioning.
When the ball is on the wing with a defender marking, keepers should be relatively central in their goal, maybe a yard or 2 towards the near post,as this strikes the right balance of protecting the near post shot and protecting crosses into dangerous areas.
The only thing he’s protecting against in that position there is a near post shot, which is low risk anyway as Saliba is marking Mudryk.
Even if the cross had missed the goal, Raya would never have been able to make it back across from that position to attempt to save from sterling coming in at the back post. In fact he barely made it back inside the goal before the ball was in the net.
I’m not being funny but as someone who played keeper as a kid to a relatively decent level this is Goalkeeper positioning 101 and it’s a huge keeper error to allow a goal like this. The fact it was also a fluke from Mudryk doesn’t take away from the fact it was an error.
This is incorrect - any goalkeeper coach in the world would tell you the positioning was fine. Don’t let a fluke send you down a rabbit hole of nonsense just because Neville lost his head
Ok well explain why he’s in such a different position for the sterling cross that leads to the handball.
A yard or two inside the near post, 4-5 yards off his line.
His positioning for crosses is generally quite aggressive which is fine because he likes to come for crosses and it’s clearly a deliberate part of his game, but being that far outside his near post for the Mudryk goal means he’s out of the game for anything stood up to the back post.
These are two completely different instances of play with little to no similarities in terms of the build up to them - hence different positioning. Don’t be dense on purpose please
But, but, this dude played in goal as a child
Apparently Partey hasnt travelled
Source?
Raya looked bad for 3 appearances in a row. It’s Time to give Ramsdale another shot
Unless Ramsdale has said he’ll sit this one out because of his baby, I think this puts the final nail in the coffin of the thought that he meant his earlier comments about competition.
He obviously just prefers Raya as a keeper. Not sure I see the upgrade myself, but let’s see how it goes over the season.
Selective ruthlessness. Thats all i can say
Not really, you’re just measuring the wrong thing
Indeed
Going to be honest here, I think Raya could intentionally throw the ball into his own net four-times-a-game for the remainder of the season and I still don’t think Arteta would let Ramsdale play.
Yep, it’s looked certain for a while now that Raya is to Ramsdale what Ramsdale was to Leno, a drop in replacement.
Raya is better in every respect so I understand why.
Tbh I think Mikel kind of put himself in a bit of corner with this Ramsdale thing. Saying that we are going to be rotating put certain expectations and now the question will always come up
don’t really think he is in a corner lol. Raya is a better keeper - Arteta wants to play him and still does. Not sure what corner he is in as he doesn’t want to drop Raya nor should he. It’s a very straight forward situation being over complicated by over reactive English pundits
But you’re not describing rotation. He said rotating and that clearly indicates players rotating. So far, the only game Ramsdale has got was because Arteta was forced to.
What else would you drop a keeper over?
Don’t really understand this. You can’t spend the summer talking about how you’re signing players to create competition for places in every position then say that poor performances won’t get players dropped.
I understand that what Arteta says to the media and what he says to the players behind closed doors are two very different things, so it’s better to ignore his press conferences before games.
Luckily that’s not what he’s said
It is clear that Ramsdale is not going to play at least that bad form of raya continue for a long time. If we see something similar to Willian that everyone is claiming for being replaced for a long time that’s the only way Arteta is going to play Ramsdale, Arteta already made he’s mind that Raya is the starting keeper.
But r/ArsenalFC plastics will try and convince you otherwise lol. Ramsdale making mistakes was never the reason he got dropped. Arteta has never said that but you people love to put words in his mouth for whatever reason.
Our keeper situation is weird at the moment, because I really think Raya is the better keeper, even with the errors he has made. Think back to games like Liverpool at Anfield last season, where they pressed us hard in the second half and we had absolutely no answer. Having that extra pseudo-outfield player who can both use his feet and hit accurate long balls to beat the press is hugely valuable.
That being said, the errors do need to be sorted out, because they could’ve very easily cost us a point at Chelsea and 3 at home against City.
I’m all Arteta but based on what he does drop players then?
When they don’t try to do what he wants them to.
He wants Raya to invite pressure, for example against City. Mistakes are going to happen, that’s life, sticking to the plan despite those mistakes is important and takes a lot of mental strength, especially in a high pressure situation like a goalkeeper
He’s only going to confirm what many think already if he doesn’t drop Raya in my opinion.
