• CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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    1 month ago

    First, what @Quantillion@mstdn.io says. Maybe I should rephrase: nobody gets better when someone goes to prison.

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    But if no such facilities exist in sweden

    Then Sweden (and every other country) should build such facilities.

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      1 month ago

      nobody gets better when someone goes to prison.

      Swedish prisons have a reoffending rate of 25%. So yes - many do.

      Then Sweden (and every other country) should build such facilities.

      Long term solution: yes. But you need a short term solution aswell to get rid of the immediate problem.

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        Swedish prisons have a reoffending rate of 25%. So yes - many do.

        That is incomplete data. We have no information how the reoffending rate would be without prison, there are other factors influencing the reoffending rate (in the US for example, it is really hard to get employed after serving prison time, something that is much easier in Sweden), you don’t get out of prison unscathed, and is that the reoffending rate of adults, kids, both…?

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          That is incomplete data

          Ah, the classic when you don’t like the data.

          We have no information how the reoffending rate would be without prison

          It would certainly be higher, because the only thing that stops many people from doing crime IS prison, and if you get away with it once, you’ll do it again. It’s basic human behavior. You don’t need data for that, just as you don’t need data for “is the stove hot when I turn it on for 2 minutes”.

          you don’t get out of prison unscathed

          Neither does the person you raped, beat up or outright murdered.

          and is that the reoffending rate of adults, kids, both…?

          That is the adult reoffending rate because there currently is no jail time for teens from what I could find. But I’d say that the reoffending rate would be around the same for teenagers. There’s no reason why adults should reoffend less or more than teenagers after prison.