There seem to be some people on Lemmy who genuinely believe that they are an animal. They say they are an “unperson” or discuss conversing with “animals” who “happen to be born in human bodies”. They see their struggle as on par with the struggle for trans people, and their right to be recognized as animals as a part of a broader societal struggle for queer acceptance.

Well, this is fucking stupid.

First of all, comparing “I’m a puppy uWu” to gender dysphoria trivializes what trans people go through. Furries are not struggling like trans people. They are simply mocking trans people (whether that mockery is intentional or not is besides the point).

Second of all, you’re not a fucking animal bro ffs. Being an animal isn’t a state of mind. It isn’t a vibe. It isn’t a social construct. It isn’t something you’re assigned at birth. It’s about DNA. You have 50% of DNA from a human mom, and 50% of your DNA from a human dad, so you have 100% human DNA (granted maybe you have like 0.1% Neanderthal DNA but whatever). So you’re a human. This shouldn’t be a hard concept to grasp.

If you can speak a human language, and have the mental wherewithal required to use the internet, then you have a HUMAN MIND. And if you “just so happen to be born in a human body” then you have a HUMAN BODY. HUMAN MIND + HUMAN BODY = HUMAN. IT’S ALL HUMAN. YOU ARE HUMAN. Just because you have a bestiality fetish does not make you a fucking bobcat ffs

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    Please forgive me for not doing in-depth research on the subtleties of furry culture

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      You spit out a 4 paragraph diatribe against furries and were off the mark because you couldn’t be bothered to do the research, then got upset when you got called out on it. Do the work, show the receipts, otherwise you’re just a blowhard, and no one likes a blowhard.

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        Sorry for having better things to do with my time then do research into the precise academic terms people with bestiality fetishes use to refer to themselves with. In everyday speech these people are “furries”. No one knows what the fuck an “other kin” or “theradian” or whatever is. Let’s speak English here bud

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          But see, you had the time to write up a hate pieice on something you didn’t understand. Kinda makes you the asshole.

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            If I’m the asshole for pointing out that its stupid to literally think you are a zebra, then sure. Guess I’m an asshole

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              Correct. Glad we cleared that up.

              Anyway, welcome to Lemmy. Hopefully you’ll learn to check that Reddit attitude at the door and be more positive in your future posts.

              The internet doesn’t need to be a negative and confrontational place. It can be fun and diverse at the same time.

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                It can be fun and diverse at the same time.

                Your idea of “fun and diverse” is enabling people with psychotic delusions by telling them that, yes, they actually are a zebra after all, when what you should be doing is encouraging them to see a psychiatrist

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                  Did a hot furry turn you down or something?? You’re making a total fool of yourself…

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                  what you should be doing is encouraging them to see a psychiatrist

                  You admit you ‘don’t have time’ to do any research about them, but you’re ready to send them to a psychiatrist?

                  Here’s a thought: if you don’t understand something and you willfully refuse to understand it … then just shut up about it and don’t worry about it.

                  You say you ‘don’t have time’, but you’re really just refusing to learn. You’ve got time to argue here about it, and yet you’re actively ignoring it every time anyone here tries to educate you.

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              It makes you an asshole for thinking they think of themselves as zebras, which is incorrect. And you keep refusing to accept otherwise. So yeah, YTA

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          You mean like bitching about things you’re clueless about?

          Just making sure my notes are accurate, here.

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          It would have been a better use of your time to not be mad about what other people do with their lives, but I will absolutely commend you on your work sharing an unpopular opinion. No sarcasm. I honestly think you would be better served by spending your time learning not to care about other people and instead focused on bettering yours, but I also appreciate you using the space as intended.

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        No one knows what the fuck a “therian” or “otherkin” is. People do not use these terms unless they are already a furry. Everyone outside of the community just uses the word “furry”. Is that less precise? Sure. But I’m not here to use technical jargon invented by a bestiality-centred internet community. Speak English

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          “everyone outside of the community just uses the word furry”

          “Everyone I talked to says asians look all the same, so do I”

          “People do not use these terms unless they are already a furry”

          “People don’t understand what all these LGBT letters mean unless they’re already gay”

          "I’m not here to use technical jargon invented by a bestiality-centered internet community. Speak English "

          “I’m not here to use words invented by a pedophilia-centered community, you gays are all pedos, I am here to remind you of my superiority and any attempts at educating me are futile because I don’t need to learn anything new, I’m not ignorant at all. Speak English”

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            So I think it’s dumb for someone to think that they are literally a dog. And in your mind this is comparable to racism and homophobia? Get a life

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              Your reasoning is comparable to the reasoning behind racism and homophobia, because you are using misinformation as a basis for prejudice.

              Being a hater of anyone with a non-human alter ego isn’t comparable in terms of harm and moral severity to racism and homophobia, if that’s what worries you.

              Throwing a crumpled piece of paper at someone else isn’t comparable to someone throwing a rock or a grenade at someone else, if your only metric is damage. In both cases the person throwing is an aggressor though. Different scale, same mechanism.

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          Those are English words. They are used in conversations held in English, between people who speak English. That’s how language works. People come up with words to signify things that didn’t have words before.

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                    Once again, you are getting on my case because you take everything I’m saying hyper-literally. Do you have autism or are you just that literal minded?

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          Yeah, because if you don’t know something then clearly nobody on earth could know.

          You should really reflect on why you’re so dead set on hating a group you know next to nothing about.

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      Well you seem to want to opine like you know what you’re talking about; so don’t be surprised when you get called out when it turns out that you don’t and you’re just doing main-character bigoted shit

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      I mean, I don’t blame you for not doing so… but your opinion is rather aggressive for being admittedly ignorant.

      Most Furries are just folks in a subculture that formed around a fetish. Not really that different from the BDSM community in that regards. And, just like how in that subculture no one thinks they really are ‘masters and slaves’ and mean no disrespect towards actual enslaved people, Furries don’t actually believe they are ‘animals with species disphoria’ and mean no disrespect towards people with gender disphoria.

      If they’re consenting adults and aren’t hurting anyone, then like, who cares who and how they fuck?

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        What do you want me to do? If I had titled this “The whole therians thing is stupid” then no one would know what the hell I was talking about, because no one knows these terms who isn’t already a furry

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          I don’t really want you to do anything. Hate whoever you want, do so for whatever reason you like, idgaf, I’m not your therapist.

          Just don’t be surprised when folks inform you that you are kind of talking out of your ass. This is the internet you know?

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          You don’t have to change the title. If you think being a furry is stupid, fine, that’s your opinion and you have the right to that opinion. It’s very hard to argue with that.

          But you didn’t stop at “I think furry is stupid”. You went on to explain why it is stupid, from your understanding, and it so happens that your understanding is very poor, therefore it exposes your motivation as hate based on prejudice.

          “I think this thing is stupid” is okay. “I think this thing is stupid because I don’t understand it, I don’t want to understand it, and I don’t want to acknowledge I don’t understand it” is very different.

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            “I think this thing is stupid because I don’t understand it, I don’t want to understand it, and I don’t want to acknowledge I don’t understand it” is very different.

            And ironically enough, that attitude is, itself, stupid.