• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    The bullies of the 90s became the techbros and aibros of today. They can’t code, but wanted to be part of the tech industry once they saw how much money there was, so they got MBAs and became the weirdo’s bosses.

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      Yeah, I feel like OP posted this thinking the “weirdos” memtions refers to like, all the assholes ruining the world now.

      When its more likely the OP Tweet or whateber it is, is a bully, and the “weirdos” being “kept in check” is referring to basically “progressives” and mostly LGBTQ+ types.

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    Buzz (Devin Ratray) was an asshole in the movie, accused of rape in real life, and convicted of domestic assault in real life. I guess OOP could have included a picture of Tom Wilson (Biff Tannen), an arguably good person IRL, but time travel proved that he’s a legacy asshole at every stage of his life. Which is what really happens when you praise bullies. You end up with the bully billionaire presidents that all of these movies tried to warn you about.

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    This is going to sound wild at first, but hear me out. There’s a huge difference between peer pressure and targeted bullying. They may look similar in a snapshot, but they should not be conflated. The former can have positive effects, but often has negative ones and bullying always has negative consequences. The biggest difference is that peer pressure focuses on something you can change, and stops when you do (obviously that change can be good or bad, and that’s why it’s not uniformly better than bullying).

    Positive peer pressure includes things like people expressing disgust when someone doesn’t wash their hands after using the bathroom or the theater audience booing when someone’s phone rings during a stage play. Most examples people think about are negative, but there are a huge number of things that young children learn mostly through peer pressure (things like how to treat friends, basic hygiene, cultural norms, etc.). I suspect we think about peer pressure as negative mostly because the positive examples don’t cause you any real internal conflict, so you make the change and don’t think about it further.

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    “Bullying works” is one of those really nasty, regressive takes that always shocks me when it appears in otherwise progressive spaces

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    I’m sorry, am I supposed to read this as putting someone on blast for being a giant fucking asshole? Cause there’s not really anything in this post to suggest that. This is fucked, my dude. Bullies take their insecurities out on their peers, there’s no benefit to such anti-social behavior. The fuck?

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      Here in the states, we do a lot of lip service to the fact that bullying is harmful. That said, there’s a pervasive attitude among school officials and in the corporate world, that bullying is somehow good. The idea is that it sends the weak to the margins, and “toughens” those on the fence between weak and strong.

      And of course, it’s bullshit. But prove me wrong. Look at the way bullying is glorified in popular culture (the tough coach or boss who makes the protagonist a better person), the military, and the business world in general.

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    Ahh yes, the psychological and physical abuse of a bully was a good thing in the 90s. Look at me, I’m a well adjusted individual. Just fine, no creeping sociopathic thoughts regularly, no violent ideation on my former bullies at all. Nope, perfectly normal and made to fit a mold I cannot fit in for the good of society.

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      The picture was actually of a crew member’s son. They thought it would be mean to use a girl’s picture.

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    The personalities bullies targeted in the 90s are not the personalities causing the issues with modern day society.

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      For the most part, you’re probably correct, but Elon Musk would’ve been bullied mercilessly in my high school, and it probably could’ve instilled some sense of self awareness if he had been.

      I think the same is probably true of Stephen Miller and J.D. Vance.

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        Elon Musk WAS bullied in high school and Stephen Miller was a social pariah for being a freaky little racist weirdo. They both still turned out this way. I’m so tired of people saying “if only they had been bullied more!”, when we know now that healthy socialization always leads to better outcomes and that having more money than god breaks peoples brains and how they perceive the world.

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        I bet Stephen Miller was bullied, that’s why he has so much to prove. Musk maybe too. Both of them get bullied quite a bit now and nothing seems to work. Although, Elon has sort of disappeared. Where is that pesky little nazi.

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          I don’t agree with the implicit assumption that the people who are bullied have to be actual nerds/geeks. People get bullied for being different, whatever that may be, and Elon strikes me as a real weirdo.

          And of course that assumes a lack of charisma, which of course describes Elon. Charismatic weirdos can actually set trends to follow, whereas uncharismatic weirdos tend to become social pariahs.

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    “we should be mean to assholes” Is not bullying. Its tit for tat.

    Also most the current lead tech bros were in college or working in the 90s.