• Communist
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    1 day ago

    You’re helping trump by not helping kamala.

    If someone is running from someone with a knife, and you see which way they went, and the guy with the knife asks you which way they went, you should mislead that person. Anything else, and you’re also at fault.

    Not helping them win and not fighting against them ultimately mean you’re benefitting them.

    If nazis were up for election, and you didn’t fight against them, you would be at fault for not fighting against them. You can twist words all you want, but it’s not going to change the fact that not fighting against them is your choice and that benefits them.

    You could’ve fought them, you agree that they’re worse, but you didn’t, so, you’ve benefitted them. They want you to do exactly what you’re doing.

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      It doesn’t matter how many times you repeat it, you’ll still be as wrong as saying that I’m draining a pool by standing next to it with an empty hose. It’s simply not how language works and you can twist words around and tell me otherwise a thousand times, and it just means you’ll be dead wrong a thousand times.

      “At fault for not fighting something” you can argue that, sure. “Benefiting,” or “helping” you cannot. There is no argument, it’s just definitionally false.

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        Why does it matter, actually?

        Not fighting trump is also bad. You’re letting fascists take over by not fighting trump.

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          Could’ve said that from the start! You didn’t have to die on this hill.

          I don’t especially want to continue the conversation into that with you after it took 20 comments of you slinging insults and shit over something that you now say doesn’t matter to get here. If I have to pull teeth over something so simple, obvious, and relatively unimportant then I see no sense in discussing other stuff.

          It’s not as if the terms I was insisting on would make it impossible to criticize my position. There’s no reason you couldn’t have accepted those terms to start and continued the debate.

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            Oh no, you’re still wrong about that, you letting fascists win is absolutely benefiting fascists. You refusing to accept that has required you to make insane leaps of mental gymnastics. I just gave up because no amount of logic can reach you.

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              “Insane leaps of mental gymnasics,” like, “Doing nothing has no impact on the election.”

              As opposed to “logic,” like, “Doing nothing is a +0 which is neither an increase nor a decrease except also it is a decrease because it’s not an increase and not increasing is the same as decreasing because zero doesn’t exist.”

              Tell you what, if doing nothing counts as helping someone, then rest assured that I’ll give Kamala my “help.”