Foo Fighters say they did not OK Trump using "My Hero" at Arizona rally, will donate royalties to Harris-Walz campaign
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Former President Donald Trump played the band's song "My Hero" when he welcomed former independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to the stage at a rally in Arizona on Friday.

Former President Donald Trump has drawn the ire of another musical group for unauthorized use of their music. This time, it’s the Foo Fighters.

Trump played the band’s song “My Hero” when he welcomed former independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to the stage at a rally in Arizona on Friday[…]

[…]The spokesperson added that any royalties received as a result of the Trump campaign’s use of the song will be donated to the campaign of Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Tim Walz.

  • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
    1657·
    3 months ago

    This kind of bullshit needs a law to be honest.

    Politicians should need direct approval before using copyright music in campaigns.

    • Thisiswritteningerman@midwest.socialEnglish
      88·
      3 months ago

      Is there not one? Seems like I, a person, can’t just publicly use a song for my own gains if an artist really wanted to stop me. A politician, also a person (albeit a wealthy one) is still targetable by the artist right.

      Like sure, rich asshole just gets a slap on the wrist fine and it gives their lawyers more more to do. But there is a law about this right?

        • octopus_ink@lemmy.mlEnglish
          371·
          3 months ago

          It is a law. That’s why he keeps getting taken to court to pay up.

          Well I’m sure this slap on the wrist will be the one that causes him to mend his ways.

      • Godnroc@lemmy.worldEnglish
        22·
        3 months ago

        Generally the person who recorded the music would have a performance copyright on that recording. This is often sold, licensed, or otherwise given to another group to distribute that recording such as through CDs or streaming. That same performance can also frequently be licensed for use in videos, commercials, public displays, etc.

        If the campaign purchased a license from the distributor to play the recording at a public event, there really isn’t any consultation with the original artist. Hence, an artist’s music being used for something they do not agree with.

        If they did not purchase a license, that’s when the lawyers are unleashed.

        • anon6789@lemmy.world
          16·
          3 months ago

          I used to think the same, but ASCAP has a very nice, easy to understand page about licensing for political events that is super informative.

          I posted this up a level, but being as you seemed to have a better understanding about this than most other commenters, I wanted to post this as a reply to you too so you would see it.

          If the campaign events are properly licensed, can the campaign still be criticized or even sued by an artist for playing their song at an event?

          Yes. If an artist is concerned that their music has been associated with a political campaign, he or she may be able to take legal action even if the campaign has the appropriate performance licenses. The campaign could potentially be in violation of other laws, unrelated to music licensing:

          The artist’s Right of Publicity, which in many states provides image protection for famous people or artists The Lanham Act, which covers confusion or dilution of a trademark (such as a band or artist name) through its unauthorized use False Endorsement, where use of the artist’s identifying work implies that the artist supports a product or candidate

          As a general rule, a campaign should be aware that, in most cases, the more closely a song is tied to the “image” or message of the campaign, the more likely it is that the recording artist or songwriter of the song could object to the song’s usage by the campaign.

          • yeather@lemmy.ca
            7·
            3 months ago

            I believe there has been a ruling on this though, it came up back in 2016. Trump used another artists music at a rally, and the artist couldn’t sue but could force the Trump campaign to stop using their discography. Only after if they used it again they could sue.

            • anon6789@lemmy.world
              6·
              3 months ago

              If you’re thinking of the Neil Young case, it seems Neil dropped it, possibly after a settlement, but maybe not, as he doesn’t sound mad in the article.

              As the bit I posted said, if the artist objects, the campaign can’t play it anymore, but Trump and Co ignored multiple cease and desist orders, and that is what brought the lawsuit. So we are both correct.

              There’s still a pending lawsuit over a campaign video that used Electric Avenue, but that hasn’t gone to court yet.

      • Capt. Wolf@lemmy.world
        82·
        3 months ago

        Seriously, performers need to DMCA the shit out of him! He’s no doubt received cease and desist letters and continues to violate copyright laws.

        Even better, sue his ass and donate the money received to Harris in his honor!

        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          3 months ago

          He’s not violated any laws in this one specific case. When you are signed to a label or group under one of the major labels and members of the riaa. They offer blanket licensing for any music covered by their labels to restaurants venues etc etc etc. An artist can request their music be restricted. But that also impacts revenue and royalties for them. Which in this case Dave Grohl I’m sure is more than fine with. He’s not one of The Starving Artists. And honestly his response realistically is the best that you Can get. Donating the royalties earned to their opponent is probably about the biggest thing you could get them to reconsider using the music LOL

    • gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      3 months ago

      You know there’s an entire specialized subset of the legal profession that deals specifically with copyright law, don’t you?

      In this case, the problem isn’t the law. It’s the judicial system.

      • BlameThePeacock@lemmy.caEnglish
        22·
        3 months ago

        There is no subset specific to politicians using copyright music.

        Generally the venue or organizer purchases a generic performance license allowing them to broadcast most copyright music. This exempts them from needing to ask each specific artist.

        That’s why these artists are donating the licensing fees they’re getting, because they WERE paid something.

        It’s just that artists can usually complain and terminate specific uses (after they know about them) for future performance.

    • foggy@lemmy.world
      524·
      3 months ago

      I respectfully disagree.

      We shouldn’t be making laws about what artists mean because artists won’t be alive forever to defend their works.

      Edit: y’all are an interesting bunch.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
        12·
        3 months ago

        It’s even worse when an estate or a record company defends those works.

        Oh you use a chord from a song I inherited the rights to? See you in court.

        Generally the artists know enough about what went into making the art to know when they’re getting ripped off or it’s a new work that is coincidentally the same, or just inspired by their work, or maybe it is their work but being used in a cool way so it’s fine by them. That’s not the case with someone (or some company) that inherits the rights and are just milking it for what it’s worth.

        For example this video was taken down for copyright infringement. Luckily David Bowie was still alive then and noticed and told his lawyers to lay off.

        Another example, John Carpenter told his lawyers to lay off the Metal Gear franchise because he liked the games.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1201·
    3 months ago

    When commenting on the Trump campaign’s use of “My Hero,” a spokesperson for the band told CBS News on Saturday: “Foo Fighters were not asked permission and if they were, they would have not granted it.”

    The spokesperson added that any royalties received as a result of the Trump campaign’s use of the song will be donated to the campaign of Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Tim Walz.

    Haha. There go my heroes.

    But seriously, that’s a great middle finger towards Trump. I still remember how quite a few artists seemed intimidated to speak out against conservatives in the mid-noughties (the whole Iraq invasion fiasco). It’s good to see many artists today defiantly standing up to conservative hate-mongers.

      • prettybunnys@sh.itjust.works
        32·
        3 months ago

        Actually they learned a valuable lesson about “their base” and it’s part of the reason they’re not “the Dixie” chicks anymore.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
          32·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, but I really wish they kept the Dixie part of their name as it refers to a geographical location and not the institution of slavery.

          The demonization of the south really bugs me as someone from North Carolina.

          Plus “The Chicks” is kinda generic

          • chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            3·
            3 months ago

            As someone living in GA and previously lived in Florida and also being parked skinned, the assumptions of the south are indeed not always correct… but enough stuff is happening in these places that I gotta say it’s much lower in my list of priorities. Let’s get some of this nasty stuff gone before getting upset about stereotypes. I do think I agree with your statement of the name though.

    • VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world
      182·
      3 months ago

      Brendon Urie did it 4 years ago when he outright told Trump to fuck off and stop playing High Hopes at his rallies.

  • designatedhacker@lemm.ee
    551·
    3 months ago

    This is the perfect approach. He can’t play it without donating to Harris out of his campaign funds. That will actually make him stop.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
      141·
      3 months ago

      Better than that, someone should put up a page itemizing all the times Trump’s campaign contributes to Harris/Walz. Make it show up at the top of the search results. Links to it on the DNC webpage.

  • anon6789@lemmy.world
    35·
    3 months ago

    ASCAP nicely has a whole page set up to ELI5 the licensing of music for political events.

    I always had a lot of assumptions, but this breaks it down very nicely.

    What music is covered by the ASCAP license for political campaigns?

    The ASCAP political campaign license agreement provides a blanket license to perform any or all of the millions of musical works in the ASCAP repertory. However, ASCAP members may ask us to exclude some or all of their works from a particular political campaign’s license. In that event, ASCAP will notify the campaign of the excluded works.

    If the campaign events are properly licensed, can the campaign still be criticized or even sued by an artist for playing their song at an event?

    Yes. If an artist is concerned that their music has been associated with a political campaign, he or she may be able to take legal action even if the campaign has the appropriate performance licenses. The campaign could potentially be in violation of other laws, unrelated to music licensing:

    1. The artist’s Right of Publicity, which in many states provides image protection for famous people or artists

    2. The Lanham Act, which covers confusion or dilution of a trademark (such as a band or artist name) through its unauthorized use

    3. False Endorsement, where use of the artist’s identifying work implies that the artist supports a product or candidate

    As a general rule, a campaign should be aware that, in most cases, the more closely a song is tied to the “image” or message of the campaign, the more likely it is that the recording artist or songwriter of the song could object to the song’s usage by the campaign.

      • anon6789@lemmy.world
        7·
        3 months ago

        Not quite, but you could say they’re the dogs of enforcing royalties! Har har!

        I’m bad at telling if people are serious or not, so I’ll give a real answer too.

        ASCAP is the American Society of Composers, Authors and Publishers. You’re on lemmy.ca, so in Canada, the equivalent is SOCAN, Society of Composers, Authors and Music Publishers of Canada. Their front page gives a pretty good run down of the purpose of these organizations.

        Basically they enforce copyright and royalties collection. They license copyright music for public use and distribute that money to artist, somewhat like a brick and mortar Spotify for people hosting public events or social settings.

  • hOrni@lemmy.world
    31·
    3 months ago

    He should have learned by now. If He wants to use a song, check if it was recorded by Kid Rock. If not, don’t use it.

    • nepenthes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      391·
      3 months ago

      George Harrison’s estate denounced the use of the Harrison-written Beatles song “Here Comes the Sun” after the Trump campaign used the song to introduce Ivanka Trump at the 2016 Republican National Convention.

      The estate noted that Trump did not have permission to use this song, but that they would consider allowing him to use the Harrison song “Beware of Darkness”.

      🤣🤣

  • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world
    17·
    3 months ago

    I love how the right idolize certain rock bands having no clue that 99.9% are left leaning. Especially the ones that talk about ragtm, syoad etc, like they are rad left if anything

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    12·
    3 months ago

    I think Trump’s strategy of “Literally piss off everyone and make yourself an enemy of pretty much everyone” is sure to get him elected and it needs to keep doing it. Maybe he should start using racial slurs and directly antagonizing law enforcement?