Timothy Murray lost his father earlier this year and had been asking his principal for counseling when she called in the police

  • ExLisper@linux.community
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    11 months ago

    I’m just saying… you never had a kid in class that was years older then everyone else, not doing shit, disrupting class all the time, getting violent and ending up in jail for attempt murder just after leaving school? I had. I wish there was a way to get him out of school earlier. I would be a better environment for everyone. But there wasn’t so they had to deal with him till he was 18 yo. Then on the other hand if you let teachers kick kids out they will get lazy and start locking up children for anything like in Texas.

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      Do you know what solitary confinement is? It’s putting someone in a cell, likely without furniture, for lengthy periods of time (discounting an hour of exercise by themselves). The light never turns off. There is absolutely no stimulation whatsoever allowed. Other prisoners yell through the air ducts in the hopes that someone will yell back.

      That environment is torture for an adult. This is a 10-year-old child.

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        You really think the general populace is safe for a 10-year old?

        Solitary confinement sucks, but in many cases it’s done to protect individuals from, you know, the other extremely violent people.

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            Then why the fixation on solitary confinement?

            If your objection is on imprisonment then argue against that, not the specifics of a certain imprisonment.

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                You realise it is morally permissible to provide a more general argument.

                Which is a better comment, “steak tastes better with barbecue sauce” OR “I don’t like steak, but it tastes better with barbecue sauce”? Doesn’t the former suggest a preference of eating steak?

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                  I have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about, but if you don’t want to stay on topic, find someone else to talk to.

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        Weird, in my case it was only in elementary school. High school was not mandatory so the disruptive kids simply didn’t go there.

        Edit: Oh, just realized that you probably also have middle school. I didn’t. It was the same school from age 7 to 15. Education was mandatory till 18 or 16 yo so the school was stuck with all the stupid kids till then.

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          Ahhhh right, simple mistake to make. Middle school kids definitely deserve solitary confinement. Fucking what??

          I hope that maybe you’re just ignorant to what “solitary confinement” means, but even then, you’re talking about locking children away in fucking prison for misbehaving in 6th grade art class. Get a grip.

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            Jesus, who’s talking about solitary confinement? Not even the original comment mentioned it. I definitely didn’t. Relax. It’s a shitty situation but getting angry about things you imagined is not going to save anyone.

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                11 months ago

                So reddit of you. Ignore the entire thread, look only at the headline, talking about related things is forbidden, only the headline matters.

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              The original article is about putting a child into solitary confinement. You don’t even need to read the article. But keep moving those goalposts…

              Is it really that much harder to just admit you were wrong (or literally just take the L and not respond at all) than doubling down on something so easily disproven?

              The mindset is just fascinating to me.

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                And ladies and gents, we have the ‘moving goalposts’ comment, it’s ‘reddit bingo’ and we can close this thread. Thanks you everyone.

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                  But… You moved the goalposts?

                  Lol, I guess I gotta admire the effort you’re willing to go through to avoid admitting you might have said something wrong.

                  But no. You can’t just judo flip the conversation like that when you get called out for saying stupid fucking shit.

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                    Just because you don’t agree with something doesn’t mean it’s wrong. Ever heard of opinions? I guess not.