Was reading on the Renault Zoe subreddit about fitting an Inverter because this Car has No V2L, and i thought about that in the past but never did it because why throw Money at Something where i can’t think of usecases other than ‘it would be neat’. So to the people who have V2L, what are you using it for?
I dont know if one exists yet but if ex90 in US supports 240v output via V2L, I will use the car as my generator in the rare cases we lose power in winter.
I can also see it being useful in camps etc.
I’m only slightly jealous of your 240v support. 😉
The problem with that is battery life. Most things using 240v will drain you fast.
Some Renault Zoes were modded to Support V2G in a trial Run for grid stability. The Stock charger is able to Work with 3x32A at 400V (22kW) or 1x 32A at 230V (7.4kW) in either direction. All i know it is just a Software Thing , sadly this was never implemented in the normal Models you could buy, so only Up to 22kW charging for me.
It is not about using 240v devices, it is about being able to power both phases of the house. Otherwise we don’t run any 240v device while on generator really (AC, oven, dryer etc)
240V won’t power both phases of your house unless it supplies two split phase 120V legs like US utilities. 240V alone would only power 240V-only appliances like an electric stove, (or, ironically, a 240V EVSE.)
I am in US :) so if a vehicle here supports 240v with V2L it would for sure be one with a nema 14-50 outlet or similar with two 120v hots.
No, NEMA 14-50 outlets have two 240 hots and one neutral that divide the 240 service into two 120Vs (each “side” uses one hot and the neutral. EVs typically only provide two hots (no neutral) so they output either 240V only or 120V only. A 240V EV output would lack the necessary 120V neutral.
That doesn’t make sense to me so a source would really be nice. For example ioniq 5 V2L adapter has a regular US outlet where one is hot (120v), one is neutral and other is ground. There must be a neutral for it to work.
If you are saying they can only have one hot, then I can understand nema 14-50 not working but I am pretty sure it can be solved with additional equipment. There are already bidirectional chargers that I would be fine with purchasing as long as there is a standard.
Todd’s wrong. A 14-50 has two 120 V hots to ground and neutral. They are out of phase so you get 240 V between the two 120 V hots.
240V tools and appliances don’t necessarily use more power. They can but for the same output power the efficiency should be better with less losses to heat.