• Forward_Recover_1135@alien.topB
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      It wouldn’t make a difference because Tesla would still have software locked everyone else out of it? If the plug itself was the issue adapters would have been out years ago. Just like Tesla drivers have had no issue charging at CCS stations for years.

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    Tesla controls 60 percent of the United States’ fast charger network as of March. Its chargers are lighter and faster

    Lighter…now that will come in handy…in case I have to carry a charger?

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      Strange. It’s not faster compared to 350 kW stations though?

      I also think it’s way higher than 60% of you count stalls.

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      The cables and connectors are much lighter. When my wife appreciates. It’s freezing here now, and some of these super thick CCS cables in the freezing are pretty unwieldy.

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        The way I read it is smaller conductors and thinner insulation. Basically remove all safety factors from the electrical engineer calculations.

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          Considering the basically zero fires at Tesla chargers, there obviously had to be a good amount of safety factor involved. I say this as an EE.

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          Liquid cooled cables don’t need larger conductors because the cables are kept cool by actively cooling them. The reason passively cooled cables need larger conductors is that resistance heating of conductors is a self-reinforcing cycle where the resistance increases as temperature increases, and temperature increases as resistance increases. So you use much larger conductors for passively cooled cables to keep resistance heating within the capabilities of the passive cooling of that conductor.

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        it’s because they can be super short and require less bulky cooling/protection compared to stations that serve cars with charging ports in unpredictable locations. There may be problems later for anyone with a port location that can’t get close enough to a charger, or if their car blocks the wrong parking spot in order to reach.

        V4 charger cables are longer, but not sure if they retain the same gauge.

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        The cables and connectors are much lighter.

        The article references the chargers not the cables.

        The downside with Tesla is the cables are much shorter so Tesla’s only.

        Tesla did put in a 10 x drive thru chargers at the Sonic in Boise so other EV’s can use them but no MagicDock plugs.

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      material costs are actually quite substantial in any product, saving mass in plastic or metal is saving in overall deployment cost

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        Material costs are actually quite insubstantial as far as the charger stalls.

        The bigs costs are land, transformers and HV controls, not the “light” charger stalls.

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      It’s important if you’re a service tech lugging equipment around. The stations need to be maintained

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        It’s important if you’re a service tech lugging equipment around.

        Repair Tech’s don’t carry charging stalls around.

        Charger parts are simple.