Most people turned to congratulate Chelsea for the fascinating game, but indeed Manchester City has a few advantages over key decisions. The most apparent controversies were the soft penalty awarded again, and no foul for the handball. Sadly if the standard of refereeing is normal, Chelsea should deserve a win.

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      And gallagher should have been given his second yellow for the challenge on grealish before the chelsea pen but… if it’s not anti-man city you wont hear about it 👀

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        And Sterling should not be on the pitch for the shit tackle, but lies against the most successful club is more important.

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          Let’s not turn into sensationalist too, that was a yellow card challenge and nothing more from Sterling. When I first saw it I though “that’s a red” but on the replay his studs are down and the contact isn’t dangerous or out of control.

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          Sterling’s challenge got a yellow as was appropriate bro, shush. It was a hard one, but it was a hard game…

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    It wasn’t a soft pen, it was a foul by Haaland 1st

    People will say “oh the defender touched him 1st”, yes he touched him and that’s not a foul what he did but Haaland yanked him to gain position which was

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      If you genuinely think the penalty at the end wasn’t a penalty then please stop watching football and remove yourself from this sub

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          Doesn’t mean that Dias is justified in thinking the ref decision in him was poor. He clattered the guy in the penalty area without getting the ball. As stone wall as it gets and the original reply was wrong to imply that the ref was unfair to city

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    Short of sheikh mansour actually reffing a couple of matches in person, it’s tough to see how the refs could make it easier for city…

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      We’re city late on payments last year when they had that ridiculous goal given against them at old Trafford?

      Or when foden had a gol ruled out at anfield for a foul by haaland in buildup ?

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        Didn’t you get the memo?

        Giving credit to City doesn’t exist in football subs lol

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          City are an excellent team, possibly best in world. Pep is a generational talent as a manger.

          Does it change the fact that they are facing over 100 counts of financial impropriety? Does it look extremely dodgy that referees manage matches on the side at the expense of city’s owners?

          LOL.

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      Well here’s the thing , other fans cannot digest the fact that one team is dominating the league whilst their team can just sit and watch . United fans are unable to digest the fact that their own neighbours who were once dominated by them are now dominating them . The other teams are just whining bcs they can’t beat us .

      Call us scamsters , frauds , oil money or whatever the fck ull want to , but we’re one team to beat in this league

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      Gallagher was somehow not booked the entire game and Cucurella should have seen a second card for simulation.

      The ref was right in front of Cucurella. If your agenda was true, he would have been sent off.

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    The handball was a case of the ref/linesman not seeing it and because it was outside of the box VAR couldn’t do anything so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt even if I think it was pretty incompetent of them not it be watching properly. The first pen was a pile of bullshit though.

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      A pile of bullshit because it’s popular to root against City? Because if it was given to say Luton vs Chelsea I’m sure everyone would say it was the right decision

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        Bullshit because Haaland realises that he wasn’t going to get to the ball so flopped to the ground in a completely unnatural way to buy a penalty, and I’d say the same if another team got a penalty in the same situation, but as we’ve seen this season City are the team that get the soft penalties and not the other way around

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      I could see the ref missing it, but the linesman is on that side of the pitch. How could he miss it

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        Wtf, it was outside the box and Walker wasn’t even looking nor could anticipate the ball. The Chelsea penalty however was nonsense. Dias got the ball and he dived

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        People complain about this then also complain about VAR being a thing. Either you like “human error” or you don’t.

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        If you blink, you miss it. These things happen. People forget what it was like in the past. The most incredible infractions would happen all the time. It’s unfortunately normal.

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        but the linesman is on that side of the pitch

        Linesman missed a blatant corner for Arsenal the other day when it clear was you like rebounded off an opponent not 2ft away from him.

        It’s like how much clearer does something need to be

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          Refs have line technology so if the ball had completely crossed the line, which it didnt, they would have called it.

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            It went out of play and they called a goal kick. It for sure went out of play. They just gave the wrong decision even though it happened right in front of the linesman.

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        As much as it pains me to defend Man City I can’t agree with that, it was blocking a clearance from his own keeper, if anything a handball in that situation is more likely to create a chance for the opposition than to block it which it may well have done if Sterling hadn’t stopped to appeal for the hand ball and had instead put pressure on Gvardiol who had the ball in a much more dangerous position than he would have been if the ball hadn’t been obstructed.

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        Eh there’s way too much uncertainty around where the ball would have gone if Walker didn’t block it, if there was only Chelsea players around and Edersons pass was obviously going to fall to us it should be a red since no goalkeeper in goal = goalscoring chance if that fall to us, but it’s too unclear where the ball was going to go to say Walker prevented a goalscoring opportunity. Looked like Ederson was trying to pass to a defender on the touchline and that’s where the pass was headed

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          There’s no reason for Walker to handball it deliberately, nothing to be gained from intercepting his own keepers clearance.

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          It was a clearance. It was headed 60 meters down the field. It certainly wasn’t going to create an immediate goal scoring opportunity.

          It wasn’t awarded a handball bc of the exemption for a ball kicked by a teammate. The end.

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      That’s not an excuse. I bet you if it was the opposite then Rodri would be crying to the ref and he would bend the rules and give a free kick

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      Handball is such a weird one because it would’ve been a dangerous place to have a free kick, not sure why they don’t look at those ones when it’s so clear

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          Free kicks taken as shots have a 6% goal rate overall. So that’s 1 in 17.

          Being charitable probably between 1-2 in 10 from there I’d guess.

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    The penalty wasn’t soft though, it was idiotic. Idiotic from cucurella, absolutely braindead foul after losing position.

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        But he is right. The ball was perfectly covered by Silva. And most probably Haaland would make a foul on his as he was not even close to that ball. Cucu just panicked and put his hands on him for no particular reason. But i do understand Cucu as well. It was a split second decision and it was the wrong one nevertheless.

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    I think Chelsea played quite well but a lot of what they created was off city mistakes , Sterling goal off a terrible composure from gvardiol

    And the Jackson goal was awful goalkeeping from ederson.

    For me peps gotta take a lot of blame here , you need to shut up shop and control the game but city never did

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      Jackson’s goal was a result of the power behind connors shot. He had no time to react, he could only block it and hope his defenders go to the rebound first.

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      For City to make mistakes Chelsea MUST play REALLY well… I just love this way of “seeing” the game. Same as Spurs just got “unlucky” to go down to 9 and not because they just simply couldn’t keep up after the first 15 minutes. Mate, we played so well yesterday that we forced City to start making mistakes and was much closer to winning the game that City was. That is all.

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      I share this same sentiment about those two goals. Silva’s was a corner kick, and Ruben had a mistimed tackle due to the rain, I suppose. It’s not like Chelsea carved City open. City also had the better chances. Sanchez had better saves

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        Yeh I think city created two great goals from open play

        • akanji header
        • haaland tap in

        And the. Had the fortune deflection for Rodri’s goal

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      Football is game of mistakes, city goals were eveb worse- bullshit pen, Silva mistake with akanji, penis goal by haaland and last goal was off silva

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      Is it that much of a reach to say that Chelsea just played really well and made City play the game they wanted them to? This rhetoric that City only lose because they don’t play their best is just lazy.

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    Why the hell did VAR not show Haaland fouling Cucurella first? It’s so baffling what var choose to show and not show something that literally preceeded the penalty appeal

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      Haaland did not foul Cucurella first though?

      Cucurella grabbed Haalands arm and Haaland grabs his arm then let go a second later whilst Cucurella panicked because Haaland made a move and got infront of him so he pulled him down.

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        Yeah. Cucurella has hold of him first, Haaland grabs him second, let’s go, Cucurella still has hold of his shirt the whole time it’s a pen

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    City had the same penalty for two weeks in a row while no one else in the league got that penalty even though it happens every game Jota did the same thing twice against Brentford and nothing happened

    Tbh I just think there’s corruption going on but I can only point fingers

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      So Cucurella should get away with manhandling players in the box. He also held Rodri for the first Chelsea goal, otherwise he was odds on to get to the ball before Silva

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      So Cucurella should get away with manhandled players in the box. He also held Rodri for the first Chelsea goal, otherwise he was odds on to get to the ball before Silva

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        if Rodri would have thrown himself at the ground VAR would 100% take a look at it… and I think I’d known the decision they would take

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    I am getting a bit done with refereeing this season, it’s been worse than ever.

    The Haaland Cucurella incident is just another one in the list of very soft penalties for city alone this season. It’s also another one where Dermot Shitforbrains is arguing it was a penalty for the same reasons he said whatever wasn’t a penalty last week. He’s an embarrassment, it’s remarkable Sky are yet to realise.

    The handball incident(s) probably aren’t worth consideration.

    But, as OP states. It would have been an injustice for Chelsea to come away with nothing yesterday.

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      Have a look at the first Chelsea goal. Cucurella likes holding and doing all sorts of rubbish. That was a penalty. Haaland would have gotten to that ball

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        He was behind the man who did get to that ball, zero chance of him getting to it.

        To quote the brain dead twat that is Dermot Gallagher; it’s just good, physical defending.

        I, like others presume you have never played football. Defending is not losing your man, whilst not losing sight of the ball. That’s what Cucurella did, Haaland tried to pull him over and Cucurella stood his ground.

        Your lot (I presume you’re a new fan) have already had a lot of decisions your way this season. Liverpool get them because they’re scared of Klopp, try to give me an answer why they’re going your way?

        The funny thing in this, Pep is one of my favourite people in football and always has been (not so much as a player, I was too young and the match fixing is a bit of a red flag).

        So, I’m a United fan who is actually obsessed with Pep and his take on football. So, in a weird non-direct way I don’t entirely dislike the club I played for until I was 14, all of which despite being a United fan. But, there’s something at play this season. Rules seem to be being bent far too regularly and far too often in your favour.

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          I played Center and left back for most of my time playing, the first tug from both was an equal foul canceling foul type moment but then he was wrapping his arms on him when pulling him down. I think ultimately it’s a call that can go either way and the refs chose the penalty. I probably would have said it shouldn’t have been a penalty but the foul is there so it isn’t wrong to call the pen.

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          Liverpool who had a red rescinded, and a second red called incorrect by an independent panel?

          Liverpool who had a goal stolen due to incompetence/straight up match fixing?

          Liverpool who didn’t get an opponent sent off because Soboslai was “facing sideways rather than forward “when yanked to the floor by the last defender with the ball at his feet getting ready to shoot from 10 yards out?

          You really picked the wrong club to say “some get decisions because xyz…

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    That game was officiated well, get over it. There is fair criticism going around for quite a few games this year but this was not one of them.

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        Both players tussled, then Haaland gets by and Cucurella pulls him, Haaland goes down. Sure it’s soft but it is a foul. Had Cucurella not touched him he was in for a contested header with Thiago Silva. Does that foul not get called all the time? Sure. Is it still a foul? Yes.

        The problem with VAR is that it takes these medium fouls, could go either way depending on the referee, and it lets un analyze them. This is a medium call, be okay with these sorts of calls, and only complain when major decisions, like the Sheffield penalty vs. Wolves and Liverpool VAR goal.

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          Haaland is not about to contest Silva for that header whatsoever. And there is a worse foul by Doku seconds before.