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  • MastofBeight@alien.topB
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    1 year ago

    Using white phosphorus attacks and cutting off food, water, and electricity to Palestinian civilians is absolutely a form of collective punishment. It’s not just collateral damage.

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      1 year ago

      Doubt we sell any of those players for that money in jan. Could see esr on a loan or something maybe with a guaranteed buy clause but i don’t see the other two going until at least the summer.

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        1 year ago

        It was meant to be a big year for ESR and Ramsdale for euro 2024

        Both their path is blocked so we will see

    • KlN_21@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      I see us selling Ramsdale ( I prefer him over raya ) But I think we are going to keep Eddie, I don’t think any team is interested in him, and with esr clearly Arteta doesn’t rate him

    • Ugoboy23@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Nobody’s spending 40-50m mid season for Ramsdale or Eddie. Doubt Newcastle does either.

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          1 year ago

          I’ve never been one to care about sales but if Edu sold those 3 players for 40-50m then I wouldn’t care for him either.

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            1 year ago

            i’ll keep this receipt in case i need more recruits to the EduOut cult

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              1 year ago

              Tbh I don’t think it’s impossible that he could have had the spot nailed eventually. But does he walk straight into it? Absolutely not. Leading the line for us is really difficult. Finishing is the easy part. Fashioning the chances for yourself, linking the play, stretching defenders by going in behind, leading the press. The physical and technical and demands are so high.

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                1 year ago

                This is a fair point. It’s very hard for young strikers to do the other parts of the game. He’s definitely not walking straight into it but I think he would have usurped Eddie by now

          • e1_duder@alien.topB
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            1 year ago

            Who wants to shill out big fees for a back up keeper, on a starters wage, or an attacking midfielder with fitness issues who doesn’t play?

            Edu can really only play the hand he’s dealt, but he plays a role in that. If we wanted big fees, we should have sold ESR two years ago and Ramsdale over the summer. They just sit around and don’t play now.

            • beetletoman@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              I know Raya is looking a better fit than Rambo atm but he is not merely a ‘backup keeper’ 😭

              • e1_duder@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                Is he starting? He hasn’t started a league since the last interlul an hasn’t started a Champion’s League match. He is the back up right now.

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                  1 year ago

                  For us, but the context here is of interest from other teams and he’d a be a dream for a lot of them

                  • e1_duder@alien.topB
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                    1 year ago

                    Maybe. Arteta has already caused quite the stir by saying he regrets not substituting Ramsdale and then subsequently not playing him outside the league cup. For better or worse, that effects player valuation.

                    He’s on wages that a lot of other clubs just can’t support. The only real hope here is that the Onana experiment continues to fail and maybe United plunk something for him. Otherwise I just don’t know where his market is.

                • KSBrian007@alien.topB
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                  1 year ago

                  No, he’s getting many small injuries as the other guy predicted.

                  But he’s getting the goals.

                  We just need to find the fittest and most durable guy in room now.

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                  1 year ago

                  I haven’t watched much Serie A this season. Is he doing well for Juve? At one point it looked to me like he was a flop.

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                    1 year ago

                    He’s doing okay. I watch Juventus games. But if we can get a more physical player, better.

                    I’d take him as #9 because I don’t like how we line up there but if it were up to me, he dropped off no.1 choice a few months back.

            • Ugoboy23@alien.topB
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              1 year ago

              Smart clubs won’t look at Ramsdale solely as a backup keeper on start wages because that’s just his situation. In reality, he’s a title challenging, could be no1 England international keeper, who’s atleast CL quality.

              Why did we spend 50m on a back up ST with 1 year left. Because he’s quality.

              • e1_duder@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                Jesus was second choice, but still played over 2600 minutes in all comps ,including over 1800 minutes in the league, and had 24 G+A the season before his transfer. He wasn’t stashed away on the bench like ESR. Even then, we probably paid below his actual value given his situation at City with the arrival of Halaand.

                Ramsdale’s wages will be an impediment for a large transfer fee. There aren’t many clubs out there willing to pay big money for a keeper who is reportedly on 100K a week. Factor in his situation with England and him likely being desperate to play elsewhere, I don’t see how the club even comes close to recouping the fee paid for him.

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              1 year ago

              It’s protecting value since all 3 are on good contacts

              If team is desperate in Jan for GK, mid or forward example they might pay

              • e1_duder@alien.topB
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                1 year ago

                Protecting value of what? Teams generally don’t pay large fees for players that don’t play. Tag on that Ramsdale is reportedly on 100K a week and I don’t see how anyone can expect a significant fee for him.

    • e1_duder@alien.topB
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      1 year ago

      Eddie has for more value that people think. We will be lucky to get a combined 30M for ESR and Ramsdale though.