cross-posted from: https://kbin.social/m/news@lemmy.world/t/488620

65% of U.S. adults say the way the president is elected should be changed so that the winner of the popular vote nationwide wins the presidency.

  • PizzaMan@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Where people live shouldn’t effect their voice in who is president. And the majority of Americans recognize that.

    The voice of a New Yorker should not be more important than a Kansan, and a Kansan’s voice should not be more important than a New Yorker.

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      1 year ago

      I’m sure those peo0le in the electoral college’s area of influence agree with you…or do they?

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        The whole point is that the electoral college is a bad way of determining agreement.

        All votes should be equal.

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            But it isn’t equitable because presidential candidates only ever pay attention to swing states.

            And people should be represented equally. The location of a citizen shouldn’t effect the strength of their voice.

            Ever single other public office in the U.S is voted by popular vote. If there were problems with it then why don’t we have mini electoral colleges for each seat? The president should be a popular vote, no different than any other office.

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              If it was population based, they’d only pay attention to large populations.

              Don’t get me wrong, I continue not to care.

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                I love how conservatives do not care about any topic yet they spend their precious time writing tons of comments on topics they definitely do not care about…

                It’s nice to see who the real snowflakes are from time to time :D

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                    Then maybe it’s time you accept who you really are and throw your centrist mask.

                    Anyone preferring the Electoral College to a direct democratic vote for the presidential election is a downright conservative in my eyes, as he (or she) prefers to keep things as they are (conserve) even if these things are proven to be worst than an already existing alternative.

                    Glad I could show you your true colours, I hope you’ll be more honest with yourself and everybody around you from now on. Even if I doubt it, since you are a conservative and conservatives flee from truth as vampires flee the sunlight.

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            Why does the state matter at all…?

            Why should a vote be counted differently depending on the state it was cast in?

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              Tbf I guess it makes a bit of sense, if say LA, NYC, CHI, and DC all vote to ban cars because they feasibly can and they have the population density to make it happen, some guy in Nebraska who’s nearest neighbor is 15mi away might be upset that he has to get a horse and buggy to buy cold cuts at the costco. On the one hand, fuck him, he should abandon his farm, life, and friends and move to the city (to starve with the rest of us I guess, if all the farmers move), but on the other they probably don’t want to do that which is why they live where they do now.

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                if say LA, NYC, CHI, and DC all vote to ban cars because they feasibly can and they have the population density to make it happen

                Nobody is trying to do that. That’s just a boogeyman the media is telling you to get you riled up.

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                  1 year ago

                  Not the question, the question was “why does state matter at all?” State could matter because different states are different, America big n’ such.

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                    1 year ago

                    And moving to STAR/approval voting would directly reflect each state far better than the electoral college ever could.

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                1 year ago

                That’s not “being fair” that’s “being unaware that the presidential election is only for selecting a president”

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                  Presidents that seem to like executive decrees these days*

                  Idk man, not saying it’s likely they’d do that, just saying “having a few cities be largely responsible for selecting the head of the executive branch may not be desireable to those living in between.”

                  Figured people would be able to not take everything literal, but this is the internet where metaphor is replaced with dunking on someone you decide is mentally inferior, my mistake.