This was long overdue, and I should have made it per day when the supreme court did these cases. But oh well, it’s all under one megathread. This will be active for a couple of days.

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    The Roberts Court is the worst since the Taney Court. Citizens United cemented that legacy a decade ago, and it’s only been downhill from there. The question now is whether they’ll be the first openly fascist court.

    And all as their various bribes are becoming public. Corrupt and evil and provably so. They took the money and sold out the rule of law.

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    That the court threw out affirmative action on the same day it struck down student loan forgiveness… well, these things are more closely related than you might think.

    Up until the Civil Rights acts were passed, state colleges were publicly funded, virtually free to students- higher education was very much seen as a public good- but while segregation was legal college was tacitly only for white people. When segregation was struck down, funding for those colleges was cut and tuition costs were shifted to students- this was explicitly about pricing poor (more to the point, black and brown) people out of colleges now that they couldn’t discriminate on the basis of race.

    The high cost your children will pay to go to college was never necessary, it was deliberately done to price minorities out of college

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      It’s not just about minorities, although it is about that.

      This is about keeping the masses out of universities so that only children of the elite can attend and to isolate them from ever interacting with anyone outside their class. Those children are white because our elites are white, of course, but it’s really a one-two punch. The goal is a consolidation of power and privilege, to ensure that anyone who goes to the “right” schools is of the “right” sort.

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    Of course the cowards released these decisions on the Friday before a 4 day weekend for most. I know it’s common practice but moves like that make it so clear that they know they’re being shitty and are trying to bury the news

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    Then general state of the country has me very concerned. Only thing I can do is try to educate and vote.

    PS: glad to have a new politics community to visit since I left reddit

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      I agree, the only thing I’m lucky is having a dual citizenship if I’m correct. As my family is from lebanon they fled during the civil war. If the future keeps going towards republican and more christan straight to lebanon I go.

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      Roberts deserves to be remembered as the Justice who presided over this shit… the audacity of this man complaining about being criticized for checks notes decisions made that HE is responsible for as leader of the Supreme Court.

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    Can someone TLDR the LGBT case? I heard something about legal business discrimination but that’s all I know.

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      A Christian website designer sued so she wouldn’t have to make sites for LGBTQ+ weddings. The court said she can refuse, citing religious freedom. It was a 6-3 vote.

      Also, it seems the web designer that sued basically made it all up. The designer didn’t have any same-sex clients. She didn’t receive any requests from gay couples to work on their wedding websites. But it doesn’t matter the court ruled that she can legally discriminate anyway.

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        She was also not a web designer lol. Insane ruling by the SCOTUS, totally ignoring standing. Same issue with the student debt relief overturning. This court does not care about standing at all and is willing to throw out that most basic principle of law for the purpose of their judicial activism.

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        This may create a sort of pseudoreligious legal arms race. One group will arbitrarily take away rights based on “their religion,” as has happened today, and another will attempt to recreate those rights under their own “religious” banner, as the church of satan has attempted. “Religion” will end up a focal point, regardless of the outcome, and fundamentalists win.

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          I have a feeling that if the church of Satan or whatever tried pushing a case under the banner of religious freedom, this court would just introduce some litmus test for which religions and believers qualify for protection under law and which do not (using originalism as a shield). And if that were to happen, I think we can confidently say that they’d find some way to implement a test that discriminated against minority beliefs in the US (e.g Islam, Hindu, atheism, indigenous faiths, etc.), further codifying the erosion of constitutional protections. I dunno, I’m obviously not a legal scholar, but I think this court is getting pretty easy to predict at this point.

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            True, I don’t think the church of satan is that strong. The satanic temple on the other hand is a power house of fucking states over adding moses and some statue. Say a city builds a statue of jesus, they must allow a statue of satan since they are opening a religious form. If satan is rejected well, under the constitution they are violating religious freedom and they either must accept the state of satan or take down the statue of jesus.

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      A website designer refused to make a website for a gay wedding couple, citing that homosexual relationship are against their religious beliefs. The state had laws forbidding discrimination on the basis of sexuality and in a lawsuit tried to force the designer to make the website. The Supreme Court decided 6-3 that religious beliefs are more important and the state can’t force someone do do business against their religious beliefs and that doing so would be a violation of free speech by forcing someone to make speech.

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    Conservative cowards doing what conservative cowards do best- regress any progress that they fear.

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    It sure is a great thing that we have such a powerful institution standing up for the sincerely-held bigotry of those poor billionaires and businesses. History books will remember them fondly.

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    Great rulings all around. Lovely day for the country!

    Happy 4th of July everybody.

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      What are we celebrating again? ‘Cus this sure doesn’t feel like freedom.

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      Can’t wait to celebrate, wait why celebrate a failing country, I rather stay home and not do any celebration for a country backtracking.

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      I guess you’re looking forward to the “no Jews allowed” signs that the Supreme Court just allowed.

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    I’m obviously interested in politics stuff but I’m honestly currently here wondering about lemmy’s politics. Does anyone know which way if any this place leans? Reddit politics obviously claimed to be neutral but by the end id say it was one of the most left biased websites on the net. Anyone know about this place?

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      reddit kept the_donald around for years after they promoted and helped organize a literal nazi rally. reddit coddles the worst of what conservatism has to offer, and always has.

      If that’s too far left for your tastes, you will not like a community where you can’t work the refs by whining.

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      Lemmy is more left-wing than Reddit and FAR more unwelcoming to differing views. If you’re even slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders, be prepared to be called a “fascist” and ridiculed by bad faith users. Consider yourself warned.

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        Are you just slightly to the right of Bernie Sanders, or do you suspect that there is some other reason that people keep calling you a fascist?

        Because if people kept calling me a fascist, I might take the hint and do some introspection.

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            Fine. Since you evidently get called a fascist all the time on lemmy, you should be able to provide an example of it happening.

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        I for one love biden but hate the hard left. On PCM I was auth center. Where do I land in this site daddy

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      Just started scrolling around here a few days ago myself. Based purely on the posts I’ve clicked from “top”, so far it seems to be about as left as reddit, but in an even more angry way: Even quicker to use dehumanizing rhetoric, to jump on the “anyone who doesn’t agree with me must actually be acting in bad faith” trend that has been gaining ground on reddit, and so on. And even one highly upvoted comment that said that every mention of free speech is a fascist dog whistle, which in context I think was supposed to be in support of some lefty thing, though that would enrage most lefties I know in the real world.

      See how it plays out though, haven’t been here long.