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      Patriotism is an expression of nationalism in which there’s stirring music and a giant national flag in the background.

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        Patriotism is “yay us”, nationalism is “fuck everyone else”. This video is most definitely the first.

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          Patriotism is lying to yourself about yourself. Nationalism is lying to yourself about others. Both are done for the purpose of moral licensing; they give us permission to act badly.

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        I think this is like saying chemistry is just applied physics which is just applied math, so chemistry doesn’t matter or is less.

        There’s a distinction.

        I’m not proud to be Canadian because I hate others or think less of them. I’m proud to be Canadian because I feel as a country we stand for good things, and I am proud of my heritage here.

        We have beautiful lands, thoughtful and talented people, good opportunities, and some fantastic traditions and idols.

        We aren’t perfect, but I certainly am proud of our ideals and people.

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          Well, fair enough, there’s room for disagreement. There are many fine distinctions that get made, and the exact relationship between nation, state, and patriotism is always controversial. As I see it, love for the land and people is near one end of a spectrum, flag waving and devotion to the sovereign crown of Canada near the other. If there’s a dividing line somewhere, not everyone draws it in the same place.