Democrats aren’t attacking Jill Stein because they think she is taking votes from Kamala Harris. No one I know who’s voting Green would consider a vote for Harris at this point. They’re attacking Jill Stein because they don’t want voters to know that there can be a worker-centered party to the left of the Democrats that supports popular policies like Medicare for All, a $25 wage and federally guaranteed housing.

There are 80+ million eligible voters who don’t vote at all because they don’t see the point. Democrats are okay with this, in fact, they don’t want any candidate to their left to appeal to those voters with popular policies.

The fact that the Green Party exists shows that the Democrats aren’t pushing the most progressive policies. Jill Stein’s candidacy shows that it’s possible to support reproductive justice AND be against funding and arming a genocide. That we can end homelessness if we stopped funding endless wars around the globe.

Democrats don’t want anyone to the left of them to exist because it’s the only way they can convince Americans that Dem policies are “the best that we can do”. To Dems, anything else is just “asking for a pony”.

Don’t fall for it. Despite Dem’s desire to have you think otherwise, things don’t have to be this way.

Another world is possible.

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    No. It’s because if you’re not voting for Harris (if you’re voting for another candidate or abstaining from voting at all) you are supporting a Trump presidency.

    That’s how our elections work. No one likes it but these are the facts. I beg you, get your head out of your idealistic ass and vote for the only candidate who has the opportunity to prevent a Trump presidency.

    be against funding and arming a genocide.

    I implore you, if you at all believe in a free Palestine, you will take action to vote for Harris. Don’t empower Trump to eradicate Palestine.

    I was idealistic when I was young too. It’s incredibly frustrating that government is so slow. But, from my perspective, it’s due to so many people not using their voices that our representatives aren’t representative of us. You have to work with the tools we have. You have to compromise and move slowly towards the things you want. It’s the down-ballot elections that you need to focus on. You need to build up these “fringe” political parties from within the cities. You need to work with civic leaders to move towards ranked choice or star voting. You need to work towards eliminating corporate investment in elections. By taking a stand at the highest level of government, you are counter productive to your own interests.

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      Agreed 100%. I reached voting age in 2008 and I was one of those “both sides suck” idealistic young voters who voted third party. I did again in 2012 and again in 2016 thinking “Hillary’s already got this one, I can protest vote”. Nope, we ended up with Trump. Ever since that I will only vote blue no matter who, at least as long as the Democrats are the only viable party with some sense of normalcy. Third parties are completely unviable in the US election system. We need ranked choice for a third party vote to not be a throwaway vote. Until that happens, we can’t afford to pick “the best choice”, we have to pick “the best choice that actually has a chance”. Even if it’s not really the best choice. Very happy to have gone out and voted early last week. We need the blue wave. Once the Republican party is thoroughly stomped into the ground and made completely unviable can we focus on a truly liberal third party, but honestly we probably have a better chance of slowly moving the Dems left than we do a third party taking over. It may not happen in my lifespan but I’d rather see progress than regression.

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      if you at all believe in a free Palestine, you will take action to vote for Harris

      How? Harris isn’t even allowing Palestinian Americans to speak. She isn’t even trying to appeal to them or acknowledge them.

      I was idealistic when I was young too

      Thanks for the compliment but my bad back calls bullshit on me being young.

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        How?

        Because Trump is firmly aligned with Netanyahu and opposed to the existence of Palestine.

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            No. Not like Trump. Not by a long shot.

            Trump openly told Netanyahu to eradicate the Palestinians. Trump has empowered Israel over and over again. if anyone gained anything during Trump’s presidency it was Israel.

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                That’s better than what Trump has done and will do. It sucks but it’s the best option for the people in the area.

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                  Ok, sure. Here’s the second paragraph:

                  Between the war’s start last October and recent days, the United States has transferred at least 14,000 of the MK-84 2,000-pound bombs, 6,500 500-pound bombs, 3,000 Hellfire precision-guided air-to-ground missiles, 1,000 bunker-buster bombs, 2,600 air-dropped small-diameter bombs, and other munitions, according to the officials, who were not authorized to speak publicly.

                  Question for you, who has been the president of the US since October 7, 2023?

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            That is a lie. The United States supports Israel because of its position in the region. To defend democracy and economies in the region, the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state. Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu’s genocide. The current conflict is largely due to Trump’s actions as president and Biden’s inaction as president.

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              To defend democracy

              jagoff

              the US has to negotiate with the Israel terrorist state

              And by negotiate you mean unconditionally arm their genocide?

              Trump doesn’t give a shit about anyone in the region and has fully supported Netanyahu’s genocide

              Again, the weapons Israel is using for their genocide were sent to them by Biden, not Trump. https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-sent-israel-thousands-2000-pound-bombs-since-oct-7-2024-06-28/

              The current conflict is largely due to Trump’s actions as president and Biden’s inaction as president

              Once again, Biden is actively arming this genocide. That doesn’t sound like inaction to me.

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      I implore you, if you at all believe in a free Palestine, you will take action to vote for Harris.

      Voting for a candidate who has vowed to continue a genocide will not, in fact, stop the genocide.

      You have to work with the tools we have.

      Bourgeoisie democracy will never willingly hand you the tools to dismantle itself. Nothing other than revolution will ever dismantle this system of genocide and working class oppression.

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        I really don’t understand how people keep forgetting that DONALDFUCKINGTRUP is the other option. He would literally nuke the area given the chance and has said as much.

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        It’s exhausting having to explain commons sense to people.

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        As opposed to, what?, rooting for accelerationism? Trying to actually make things incrementally better isn’t good enough, so burn the whole fucking thing down (but of course in your fantasy you survive…)?

        Things were undeniably better under Biden than they were under Trump. Obama was better than Bush. we keep trying to improve shit, and y’all are insisting that breaking it all is better than continual improvement.

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      There’s a few running, that the democrats tried and failed to kick off the ballot in many states. Party for Socialism and Liberation is one.

      The US greens are also an eco-socialist party. Ajamu Baraka is a great anti-imperialist / communist writer, and he was the green party’s VP pick last time.

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        I heard of greens, but as a party I hadn’t actually seen them or any of the others covered much. Usually you just hear about Republicans and democrats. Might just be censorship and lack of exposure in the u.s.

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      If they would actually do the work at the local level to get candidates elected in towns, counties, and states, then they might even be viable at a national level at some point. But if they won’t put in the effort locally, then all they’re doing is fucking over the rest of the country when they run nationally.