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      I was a Bernie or buster in 2016 and I deeply regret it. Genocide is evil and we won’t defeat it by not participating in the system.

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          That’s not something you vote for, for that you need to take to the streets. But if you can’t even be bothered to go that the 10 minutes to prevent the ‘worse genocide’ candidate taking power, I doubt you’ll do that.

          You don’t need to be enthusiastic about Harris, she’ll still support Israel. But Trump literally told Israel to ‘finish the job’. Don’t pretend they’re the same.

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          Your abstinence has high potentially to lead to election of the person who will objectively make the genocide worse, immediately undermining any moral stance you think you’re making.

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          That isn’t on the ballot, you don’t understand first past the post do you?

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      You’re right! Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. No one is going to vote for Trump who wants to melt Palestein

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        You’re right about Trump, but man it still sucks we can only vote for genocide or genocide slow burn. Not that anything is really slow burn at this point anyway.

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          Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

          Positive change takes time. It may take longer than you and I feel it should, but it happens.

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          as aoc said when arguing why you should vote for biden the first time: you’re not just voting for the person who already gives you everything you want. you’re voting for the person you will argue against, criticize, protest and try to convince to do what you want. out of the two, who do you think is less likely to respond to protests? who’s more likely to be open to dialogue, even if it’s an adversarial one?

          vote for Harris, then protest the fuck out of her positions you don’t like. maybe with enough pressure you can force some change. with mango mussolini you have no chance.

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          It does suck. And it’s ok to still vote based on the other parts of their platforms while continuing to condemn genocide.

          Engage with your elected officials, your local parties, and other grassroot efforts to bring more pressure to stopping war aid to Israel. The work to change politics and policy is done between elections.