Reminds me of a Micheal Moore video. He got MAGoos of various ages and asked them 'When was America ‘Great’ and when did it start to go wrong?"
The people born in 1940 thought the problem started around 1965; the ones born in 1960 thought it was around 1985; the ones born in 1980 thought it was 2005…
If only there were an explanation…
At What Age Is the Frontal Lobe Fully Developed?
The frontal lobe’s development process is not linear, and it can vary depending on an individual’s genetic makeup, environment, and experiences. According to research, the frontal lobe is not fully developed until the mid-20s, with some studies suggesting that it can continue to develop into the early 30s.
https://www.nhnscr.org/blog/frontal-lobe-development-understanding-brain-development-by-age/
Gawd I wonder why peoples view of the world typically solidifies in their mid-twenties whatever could it be?
sheesh, i was born in 1990, and I think that the problem got much worse in 2016…
Nah, I was born in 1987, and 2012 is definitely when it went to shit with the “tea party”
1985 here, I’d place it with Clinton neoliberalism personally (the left sold out, and the right totally lost their minds as Rush Limbaugh’s proteges started showing up on cable news)
I mean, the lead up to the tea party’s core ideals was already there with stuff like that Imus wanker openly calling the WNBA “Nappy-headed hoes” on his national news show in like 2004-2005. The current hard right, isolationist, bigoted downfall has been going on since rush limbaugh hit the airwaves in the late 80’s. Before the rush era, there was some serious bullshit, but that was the start of not stowing the hoods UNDER the pickup seats anymore. Saying the bigoted parts out loud, in public, and nationwide with blanket tacit approval from roughly half the country really grew legs with that fucker. I think that was 87. Pat Robertson running for president and everything.
The concepts of “us” and “them” started getting real widespread traction with otherwise middle-of-the-road people when rush hit.
I’m a 90s baby but I’m still pretty sure Regan was where things started going downhill.
I mean, is it my fault I was roughly 25 when the Great Recession happened? Because I’d peg that as when shit started getting really weird and bad all around. But I also agree that we took a much sharper downward turn in 2016.
(I don’t mean to dismiss the deeply misguided military adventurism the US was engaged in during the naughties, but the question I’m answering here is “when, in your perception, did shit start to go real sideways in this country”?
Hold on, as a child of the 80s, things went to shit before 2005. Not saying things continually improve, but the bubble burst that happened while in college really messed with things.
Reminder they are Republicans. These years also roughly coincide with Republican presidents, the exception being 1965 since that was Johnson. But Johnson is also looked back pretty fondly nowadays so yeah.
Days after the US supreme court overturned Roe v Wade in 2022, Vance tweeted: “If your worldview tells you that it’s bad for women to become mothers but liberating for them to work 90 hours a week in a cubicle at the New York Times or Goldman Sachs, you’ve been had.”
Does it just not enter into these fucknuts’ heads that it doesn’t matter what a woman does with her life, as long as she is the one making the choice to do it?
Look at his rhetoric.
“If YOUR worldview…”
“bad for women”
“YOU’VE been had”
He’s only addressing the men about the women in their lives. He doesn’t even care enough about women to address them directly.
Yeah, under the spectrum of feminist choices being a trad wife is one of them. However, you don’t get to tell other women (or men) how to be. That’s feminism, freedom of choice across genders
also it’s not like Republican economic policies actually support single income households where someone can stay home.
They also generally oppose labor rights that would make 90 hour work weeks illegal.
Dammit. Don’t ruin sundresses.
It’s republi-cosplay
I ain’t been out anywhere damn near long enough for them to now try to make sundresses some kinda symbol of patriarchal domesticity cult bullshit. I’m trans, I’m out, and if the sun’s out too, I’m wearing a sundress. Goddammit.
Homesteading I could take or leave lol
Trad* is such a stupid term.
The USA was never great, unless you consider the mass enslavement and genocide of people to be its crowning achievement, which sadly many do, and that is what the Nazi/Fascist/Republican Party means when they say, “Make America Great Again.”
Wishful thinking of some at least ‘king of my own castle’?
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This idea of a a single income supporting a family is part of that past that never existed. That was never the norm for Americans. (So long as POC and women count as Americans)
Progressives shouldn’t look backward. It’s gross.
Lets not degrade folks from looking backwards. You can gain a lot of data through historical analysis and maybe even some ideas that can be dug back up and modernized. The problem occurs when folks get blinded by the past. Old World Blues and all that.
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