I would ask ozma the same thing I asked about marijuana policy
Your mistake is thinking that return2ozma is a regular person looking for a nuanced policy debate within the parameters of reality, and not just (at best) some guy who spends every waking hour posting bullshit on lemmy or (at worst) a sock puppet knowingly posting bad-faith arguments as a form of political propaganda.
I don’t know for sure, but I do know that someone who has posted 2550 threads in 11 months (~8 threads/day on average) lives online and should be generally disregarded by any normal, rational person. Ask yourself what kind of person has that much free time to post on reddit/lemmy/social media…
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know. I just want to (a) answer krashmo’s pretty reasonable question (b) have ozma’s refusal to answer my question to be able to refer to in the future, to make the point to other people, when he inevitably posts this bad-faith bullshit a few times a week every week from now until the election.
I definitely appreciated your response. It was thorough and very civil. To be honest I was kind of expecting people to downvote me and not provide any reasoning why so an actual answer was a pleasant surprise
Dude I’m fuckin trying 🥲. Immigration is the one of the bad-faith criticisms that really gets under my skin because it is personal to me in a couple different ways, and this thread is absolutely filled with people who are talking pure bullshit about it for malicious reasons.
Anyway I am happy if you found my input to be useful. I’m gonna go back to just pretending this tide of total crap isn’t washing around the rest of the thread and restrain myself from spending the rest of my night typing hostile and condescending replies to it all.
Immigration is an interesting topic for sure. One of many that climate change is likely to force more urgent action on in the relatively near future. Hopefully we have a more well rounded approach in place by then.
I know the feeling you described well. It’s easy to fall into the rage bait trap. Good on you for taking the high road, even if only temporarily. I’m trying to do better at that myself.
I lost the battle, now I’m being super mean spirited to some obvious shill in some other thread. It is ok. I feel like it’s probably more productive than not, and I am enjoying myself in a kind of this-probably-isn’t-healthy way. 😃
Your mistake is thinking that return2ozma is a regular person looking for a nuanced policy debate within the parameters of reality, and not just (at best) some guy who spends every waking hour posting bullshit on lemmy or (at worst) a sock puppet knowingly posting bad-faith arguments as a form of political propaganda.
It doesn’t seem like a mistake to me to treat people with the respect of generous interpretation.
Do you have specific knowledge of this person, or is this the story you tell yourself about others by default? If so, why?
Your mistake is thinking that return2ozma is a regular person looking for a nuanced policy debate within the parameters of reality, and not just (at best) some guy who spends every waking hour posting bullshit on lemmy or (at worst) a sock puppet knowingly posting bad-faith arguments as a form of political propaganda.
I don’t know for sure, but I do know that someone who has posted 2550 threads in 11 months (~8 threads/day on average) lives online and should be generally disregarded by any normal, rational person. Ask yourself what kind of person has that much free time to post on reddit/lemmy/social media…
Oh, I know. Trust me, I know. I just want to (a) answer krashmo’s pretty reasonable question (b) have ozma’s refusal to answer my question to be able to refer to in the future, to make the point to other people, when he inevitably posts this bad-faith bullshit a few times a week every week from now until the election.
I definitely appreciated your response. It was thorough and very civil. To be honest I was kind of expecting people to downvote me and not provide any reasoning why so an actual answer was a pleasant surprise
Dude I’m fuckin trying 🥲. Immigration is the one of the bad-faith criticisms that really gets under my skin because it is personal to me in a couple different ways, and this thread is absolutely filled with people who are talking pure bullshit about it for malicious reasons.
Anyway I am happy if you found my input to be useful. I’m gonna go back to just pretending this tide of total crap isn’t washing around the rest of the thread and restrain myself from spending the rest of my night typing hostile and condescending replies to it all.
Immigration is an interesting topic for sure. One of many that climate change is likely to force more urgent action on in the relatively near future. Hopefully we have a more well rounded approach in place by then.
I know the feeling you described well. It’s easy to fall into the rage bait trap. Good on you for taking the high road, even if only temporarily. I’m trying to do better at that myself.
I lost the battle, now I’m being super mean spirited to some obvious shill in some other thread. It is ok. I feel like it’s probably more productive than not, and I am enjoying myself in a kind of this-probably-isn’t-healthy way. 😃
It doesn’t seem like a mistake to me to treat people with the respect of generous interpretation.
Do you have specific knowledge of this person, or is this the story you tell yourself about others by default? If so, why?