It’s just wild that we remove sexual organs -which is irreversible- from those who aren’t sexually mature yet, rather than relying on therapeutics that are reversible until they’re of age. Especially since so many trans youth also suffer from other mental heath issues. Those issues at least should be looked into and treated prior to moving forward with organ removal.
This isn’t really a thing. Genital reassignment surgery(phalloplasty and others) is almost always limited to 18+. I’m not aware of the medical guidelines indicating anything else, or any major hospitals or surgical centers that do otherwise. There are also a massive amount of hurdles to overcome before any doctor will perform these, including 12 months of living as the gender.
You need to do some more educating yourself as what this post looks like is either ignorance, concern trolling, or someone who has fallen for the misinformation pushed by anti trans people.
The youngest so far in the US is 17 for full reassignment, whereas other countries I believe is 16.
Living as the opposite gender for a year with your sexual organs functional is hardly the same as having them removed or altered to the point of irreversibility. It’s great that some enjoy living as an opposite gender, but that’s before any major, irreversible changes to their body is made functionality-wise. Gender isn’t the same as sex.
A lot of people do try to brush off my concern on the matter as trolling or uneducated. I can’t do much about that other than keep having these conversations.
Then don’t over exaggerate. You talk about it being wild that this is happening to people below sexual maturity and now by your own admission, even the youngest in the US wouldn’t fit that criteria.
Furthermore less than 1% of patients who undergo these surgeries show regret. This is a pretty solid demonstration that people aren’t going into this blind or without thought. The standard medical guidelines work, and your concern continues to show ignorance of the subject. And of course gender isn’t the same as sex, that’s the whole point of the surgeries.
I’m not over exaggerating, but maybe the term sexual maturity hit a snag? If we go by puberty, you’re right that the ages of people having their sexual organs removed (13 at the youngest from what I’ve seen for breast removal). Is over puberty, but they’re hardly mature to make sexual decisions. It’s the same reasoning behind why we make it a crime to have sexual relations with minors - they’re not mature enough both of mind and body to do so. To me it’s wild that its okay for one, but not the other.
From the studies I’ve read, we haven’t tracked regret in those underage (because there’s not many who have done so yet), so the very few who have, we’re experimenting on with zero studies done (though I’m sure they’re currently being studied now, we just won’t know the results until years from now).
I’d also like to know how long they were tracked for. If you can link to a long term study, I’d like to read through it.
So, living as the opposite gender doesn’t mean they’ll do well living as the opposite sex also then. Don’t get me wrong, they’re more likely too, so I’m glad that, at least, is in place.
There aren’t really studies targeting below 18 individuals because it isn’t the standard of medical care.
This is an excellent look at the Oregon Health and Science University. They had 6 individuals out of almost 2000 who sought reversal. 5 of those were not their original patients so did not go through their pre surgery procedures.
This is a systemic review looking at others research into this topic that finds a slightly higher but similar level of regret, around 1%.
A lot of people do try to brush off my concern on the matter as trolling or uneducated. I can’t do much about that other than keep having these conversations
Have you tried actually educating yourself instead of forcing other people to look at whatever the hell this is that you’re trying to do? This quite literally just looks like concern trolling, and if you’re genuine, you’re not gonna get a better response than this without actually trying to understand the subject that you’re trying to speak.
This is all feels. There’s no way for me or any of us to make you feel better. You have to do that yourself. I suggest actually looking into the matter.
Have you discussed your opinion with people who want or have had these operations?
Yes, I have.
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Doubt all you want, this isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
How many have you talked to, post-op? How many of them have expressed regret? How many of them have expressed the intimidation and threats against them just for feeling different than you?
Maybe you have talked to them. I don’t doubt you. But I don’t think you understand them. They’re volunteering for what they do. It’s very different from lobotomies which were generally non-consensual.
I’ve talked to a lot of folk pre- and post-op. If I were a medical practitioner then I would perform the operation myself. I don’t agree with their decision, and I don’t have to. But I fully endorse them to make the decision as it is their right to have their body function and form the way they want.
…just as I would also fully endorse anyone who wants to replace any other damaged body part.
Think your body looks wrong? You can color it any way you like. Tattoos are a thing, after all.
Lost or damaged a limb? Replace it! Plenty of combat vets and people with muscular disorders agree with this.
Want to feel magnets? You can implant magnets under your fingertips! Plenty of body modders have done this.
Want better vision? Get better eyes! Let me know when they’re safe, I’ve got some blind relatives who need replacement optical equipment.
Do you not want to have children? Then remove your crotch spawning capabilities! Plenty of men and women get this done. It’s your body, it’s your right.
Want to commit suicide? Well, I don’t agree with it but I fully think that falls within your right to bodily autonomy.
Dumbest shit I’ve heard in awhile tbh
Why’s that?
Because you clearly have no medical knowledge if you’re saying that this is going to be the modern equivalent of lobotomies.
I have to agree op, children’s brains are still in development. I was pretty shocked that giving kids meds to help transition is a thing.
Yeah, I’m not at all convinced puberty blockers are okay to give out, either. There’s a lot of push out there that there’s no ill side effect of not going through puberty, but what I’ve seen is that isn’t the case, so far. Right now we’re in an era of experimentation, which I don’t think a lot of people realize.
Show your work or stop spreading misinformation.
Noone is saying there are no side effects, just that they are minimal, mostly temporary, and significantly less harmful than not getting treatment. Drugs like Lupron have been used for decades for things like precocious puberty and endometriosis treatments. It’s side effects are well understood, and more harmful ones only occur after extended periods of use. Which they aren’t prescribed for long periods of time for trans youth because they are used to give them a bit of time to determine if they want hormone therapy. Which does have longer term side effects.
