• proletariatnerd@iusearchlinux.fyi
    2·
    2 years ago

    The US is rife with issues, but the hardships experienced by the average western citizen doesn’t even compare to the suffering that you would find in, say, Pol Pot’s Cambodia

    I have some fellas from Detroit that would disagree.

    • Cowbob45@beehaw.org
      2·
      2 years ago

      My dude you need to stop right now before you end up saying that genocide isn’t that bad. Because that’s what Pol Pot did.

        • cryball@sopuli.xyz
          1·
          2 years ago

          Killing millions and being dysfunctional are in a different realm of terrible. I’m sorry, but how did you come to the conclusion that they are even comparable?

          • river@lemmy.world
            2·
            2 years ago

            hm i wonder if theres any capitalist countries with a history of committing genocide…

              • river@lemmy.world
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                2 years ago

                oh dear here we go. off the top of my head, there is of course, canada, usa (native americans), israel (palestinians), nazi germany (jewish people, PoC, queer people, communists, and a whole bunch of others)(it mightve called itself socialist but was still very much capitalist), china (uyghur people) (also might call itself communist but they literally have billionaires and a fucking stock market, cmon)

                • cryball@sopuli.xyz
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                  2 years ago

                  I view nazi germany and china quite a bit different from real capitalist societies. Simply having a stock market doesn’t mean the markets are free to function as they please.

                  I also tend to disagree with canada and usa being genocidial at this point in time. For sure they did horrific things, but comparing usa to nazi germany or current day china is delusional, as the US country’s government is not actively killing a part of their own population.

                  What rubs me the wrong way in these conversations is mentioning capitalism as a system that commits the genocide. Both germany and china are/were state driven, and as such the markets didn’t really have anything to do with the actions. Instead the genocide is driven by the government that is/was authoritarian, and as such the markets aren’t driving the killing.

                  The one country I agree with being a free market and genocidial is Israel.

                  • river@lemmy.world
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                    2 years ago

                    Simply having a stock market doesn’t mean the markets are free to function as they please.

                    are u saying that government intervention in the “free market” = communism?

                    as a reminder, communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society.

                    also, state intervention in the market does not make a country no longer capitalist, they all have that.

                    but comparing usa to nazi germany or current day china is delusional

                    i was just giving u a list of genocidal capitalist countries, i wasnt comparing them with each other.

                    many countries are built on genocide thanks to colonialism. canada is one of them, and it has not changed its course