@chronohart
@luca @PCOWandre @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews

Let’s be honest most people have no idea this bridge is going to exist. So, they can’t opt-in. If nobody opts-in, you won’t be able to search for them by their ActivityPub handles. The bridge isn’t useful. People on both sides who would like to reconnect with their friends won’t be able to. However, if you know you hate BS, you can add the bridge to your personal block list and it isn’t an issue for you.

    • Jamie Booth@boothcomputing.socialOP
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      9 months ago

      @HistoPol@mastodon.social
      @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social

      This is a really good question and I don’t know the answer. This is the kinda of thing I think we should be asking about the bridge.

      @snarfed@indieweb.social do you know the answer to this?

        • HistoPol (#HP)@mastodon.social
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          9 months ago

          @agrinova
          @shiri
          (1/2)
          I guess I can answer this question now: once s.o. quotes or boosts your content (= new post) you lose control of your content and cannot prevent it from being shared.
          I’d say, unless you limited the post to your followers, however if one of your followers were on the #Friendica or #Hubzilla platform, they’d still be able to quote your post and then you’d still lose control,…
          @jamie @chronohart @luca @PCOWandre @activitypubblueskybridge @fedidevs @fediversenews @snarfed

          • HistoPol (#HP)@mastodon.social
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            9 months ago

            @agrinova@social.cologne @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @snarfed@indieweb.social

            (2/2)

            …correct @shiri@foggyminds.com? (I hope I have understood everything correctly that all of you had such great patience to explain to me today.
            //

          • Scott M. Stolz@authorship.studio
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            9 months ago

            @HistoPol

            I’d say, unless you limited the post to your followers, however if one of your followers were on the #Friendica or #Hubzilla platform, they’d still be able to quote your post and then you’d still lose control,…

            Not exactly accurate. Anyone can copy and paste your words into the post box and quote you. Some platforms make it easier than others though.

            Also, Mastodon is rumored to be including quote posts soon, so even on Mastodon, people will be able to quote you.

            • HistoPol (#HP)@mastodon.social
              1·
              9 months ago

              @scott@authorship.studio

              Copy and paste is possible, anywhere, always, yes.

              Difference: copy & paste will not leave a trail to your original post, a link will.

              #Mastodon was supposed to have quote posts last summer. Then @Gargron@mastodon.social sent a lengthy explanation that resources had to be recomitted to fix backend features. Since, I haven’t heard anyhting new regarding this, but I have not searched for it either.

              • Scott M. Stolz@authorship.studio
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                9 months ago

                @HistoPol

                Copy and paste is possible, anywhere, always, yes.

                Difference: copy & paste will not leave a trail to your original post, a link will.

                Actually, it can. I can manually type your handle and what you said and it will reference you. Just mentioning someone’s handle such as @HistoPol@mastodon.social references them (i.e. @HistoPol)

          • Hartmut Neubauer@social.cologne
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            9 months ago

            @HistoPol@mastodon.social @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @snarfed@indieweb.social @shiri@foggyminds.com
            Of course, you are right regarding the issue of boosting content. So I would like to intervene a little bit earlier.
            If, e.g., Babsi on Bluesky follows Mary on Mastodon, Mary already has given her consent to interact with BS via the Bridge. But now Freddie, another fediverse user who has NOT given this consent, answers to Mary’s post. Question: Can Babsi read Freddie’s comments?
            ->

            • Hartmut Neubauer@social.cologne
              1·
              9 months ago

              @HistoPol@mastodon.social @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @snarfed@indieweb.social @shiri@foggyminds.com Proposal 1:
              Yes, but the “like”, “share” and “answer” buttons are hidden or disabled for Babsi; furthermore Freddie’s fediverse address (“@freddiemiller@friendica.xyz”) is hidden so that it is not easy for Babsi to mention him. Perhaps it is even possible to prevent textwise selection and copying. But even if copy & paste would be possible, as @HistoPol@mastodon.social mentioned, no trail would be left. ->

              • Hartmut Neubauer@social.cologne
                1·
                9 months ago

                @HistoPol@mastodon.social @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @snarfed@indieweb.social @shiri@foggyminds.com 2nd possibility: to hide Freddie’s posts to Babsi. Okay, in this case not the whole discussion would be visible. But this might be done if Freddie has actively contradicted to the Bridge.
                3rd: to display and allow all. But this might be difficult and a contradiction to that what Freddie has agreed to.

              • Hartmut Neubauer@social.cologne
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                9 months ago

                @HistoPol@mastodon.social @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @snarfed@indieweb.social @shiri@foggyminds.com Maybe that there is still something to do for the development. For example, if Mary answers to a couple of users (and usually you see all their fediverse names in the head of the message), Babsi sees a copy of this message with only the @ names of the Bluesky users and those Fediverse users who have agreed to the Bridge, but without those who have not.

                • HistoPol (#HP)@mastodon.social
                  1·
                  9 months ago

                  @agrinova@social.cologne

                  Sounds öike an excellent solution

                  We need to beef up moderation!–We’re going to be inundated by people with a completely different (net) sozialization and #netiquette:

                  https://mastodon.social/@HistoPol/110664442749882273
                  @jamie@boothcomputing.social @chronohart@tech.lgbt @luca@sironi.tk @PCOWandre@jauntygoat.net @activitypubblueskybridge@venera.social @fedidevs@venera.social @fediversenews@venera.social @shiri@foggyminds.com @snarfed.org@snarfed.org