• Value Subtracted@startrek.websiteM
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    11 months ago

    It’s beginning to feel like Charlie Brown and the football at this point, but let’s see if they can actually get this one off the ground.

    • @ValueSubtracted @startrek
      Basically where I’m also at.

      Also, as someone noted in a Discord chat about it, “decades before” only gives you a small window between the start of the Kelvin universe and Trek '09, otherwise too far back and you’re making a Prime Timeline movie. So that’ll be interesting to see what they plan.

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        11 months ago

        At this point the Kelvin timeline is just a handwavey excuse for recasting Kirk and crew of TOS and following movies. And a prequel to Kelvin is an excuse to recast those parts with younger actors.

        Personally, I could care less about new movies featuring the TOS characters. Star trek evolved past them 30 years ago, I wish Hollywood would realise that.

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          Kelvin broke the seal on recasting, as it were.

          If Discovery or SNW had been the first to recast Kirk, there would have been a revolt, but since Kelvin got us used to the idea people just kind of accept it.

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            11 months ago

            Yeah, it was Pandora’s recasting, and now all the Kirks and Spocks are loose on the world.

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        There are actually differences in the Prime and Kelvin timelines that happened before Nero’s incursion. For instance, Kirk’s date of birth is off by several months. They tried to justify that afterwards by saying something about the event sending shockwaves through time to change things before it even happened or something like that. The real reason probably lies in that interview where JJ Abrams admitted he never liked Star Trek, but you could argue that the removal of various down-stream time travel events, like the events of “The City on the Edge of Forever” likely not happening in the modified timeline, could actually cause retroactive changes to the timeline.

        But anyway, the Kelvin timeline already diverges before the Kelvin-Narada thing, because reasons.

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          Another change is Enterprise being built on earth instead of in orbit.

          I’m almost entirely sure that choice was because JJ Abrams wanted that visual in his movie. Justifications to Trek nerds were an afterthought.

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        I would take that with a grain of salt - it’s a general-purpose Hollywood outlet reporting what their sources told them, so there could be room for inaccuracies.

        They could also follow Simon Pegg’s contention that the Kelvin and Prime timelines could be different at any point in history (which I support).