I’m assuming this could be why Tesla’s are so cheap compared with similar electric cars.
Let’s take the model y LR and the Kia Ev9 Earth.
The model y LR has a range of 533km with a 75kwh battery
The ev9 earth has a range of 512km with a 99.8kwh battery.
That’s 14.8kwh more than the Tesla and 21km LESS range than the Tesla.
Is Tesla’s cars just more efficient? And by that much??
There’s no way Tesla can be that much more efficient with it’s motor, aerodynamics and electronics. (What am I missing?)
Other brands should be able to do somewhat the same. An electric motor isn’t a complex machine and aerodynamics can be easily improved upon. Same for electronics.
The MY is more aerodynamic (0.23 vs 0.28) along with the greater efficiency of the powertrain.
Unfortunately, it’s mostly to do with their inaccurate range claims. You should also compare similar class vehicles, Kia EV6 and the Model Y.
EPA Ranges:
Model Y LR 75kwh - 533km
Kia EV6 77.4 kWh - 499km
Edmunds tested:
Model Y LR - 510km
Kia EV6 - 520km
https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/electric-car-range-and-consumption-epa-vs-edmunds.html
They aren’t getting the range they say (I have a model 3) but their efficiency is definitely better than many other cars. I average over 4 miles a kWh overall for my cars lifetime.
EV9 gets way more range than a Tesla Semi.
No seriously. Why are you comparing a Y to an EV9 when there is also an EV6 to compare it with?
you are comparing WLTP range here and not real world range.
also these two vehicles are very different in size.
looking at real world range the model Y LR in the summer at 120kmh only made it 340km which means going from 80% to 5% charge on a road trip is only 221km so you are charging less than every 2 hours.
the EV6 GT in similar conditions had 259km of range at 120kmh giving it 187km range when using 75% of battery charge.
Tesla has heavily optimized for these test cycles so they get really good numbers on paper but in reality theres a HUGE difference between test cycle range and real world range.
As others have stated you’re comparing two different classes of vehicles. Compare the Y to EV6 and X to EV9
That’s a bad comparison. Model Y and EV9 are not on the same category. You can compare Y with EV6 and maybe the X with the EV9 (the EV9 is quiete bigger I think).
They aren’t.
It’s a combination of lots of small optimizations that allows Tesla to have such good efficiency.
Most of all they don’t compromise on aerodynamics. However it’s also tiny things like scavenging heat from everywhere in the car to minimize heating needs for interior and battery temperature control (they scavenge heat off of the charging connector, for chrissakes)
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Actually efficient electric motors are hard to make. Then add in a lot of other stuff. Don’t take “official” numbers. See what Bjorn says.
Doesn’t Tesla make their own batteries. May be a big cost saving there.
Not rah-rah Tesla, this is just what happens when your company ONLY makes EVs.
All Teslas were built from the ground up to be EVs. Every design decision in them aligns with them being an EV. Aerodynamics was job 1 (that’s why all Teslas are exactly the same shape) and that has a huge impact on highway range. Close attention was paid to HVAC and cabin insulation, because that effects winter range.
It’s like the difference between a 1990s EV1 (scratch built to be an EV) and a 90s Toyota RAV4-EV (a complete afterthought, battery packs slapped onto an ICE frame). Of course the EV1 got better mileage.
These two vehicle are like comparing a corolla to a C-Class.
Tesla lies about its mileage figures. I’ve had a base Model 3 for years and I’ve never gotten more than 180 miles on a full charge.