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NACS is the CCS protocol through the Tesla plug. It can support a passive adapter to charge non Tesla EVs. It is currently rolled out to the one or two dozen superchargers with Magic Dock and is included in the two v4 sites rolled out in Atlanta and Oregon (but has not been activated there, yet).
I will be performing the CCS upgrade on my 2020 Model 3 but will not buy the CCS adapter. That will make my car ready to use 3rd party charging stations once they have rolled out NACS plugs.
NACS is the CCS protocol through the Tesla plug. It can support a passive adapter to charge non Tesla EVs. It is currently rolled out to the one or two dozen superchargers with Magic Dock and is included in the two v4 sites rolled out in Atlanta and Oregon (but has not been activated there, yet).
You are wrong. Here is what Tesla says about it. I would encourage you to stop spreading misinformation.
As a purely electrical and mechanical interface agnostic to use case and communication protocol, NACS is straightforward to adopt. The design and specification files are available for download, and we are actively working with relevant standards bodies to codify Tesla’s charging connector as a public standard. Enjoy.
Okay, so how do you want to word it, then? Tesla and 3rd party providers could have employed any protocol with the open-sourced hardware, but they settled on CCS since that’s what nearly all non-Tesla EVs already use?
Okay, so how do you want to word it, then? Tesla and 3rd party providers could have employed any protocol with the open-sourced hardware, but they settled on CCS since that’s what nearly all non-Tesla EVs already use?
That’s up to the 3rd party providers. But NACS is not a communication protocol.
I’ve been staring at our exchange, and I finally understand why you were so adamant about your point. The way I worded my position implied that Tesla would be dropping their proprietary protocol when communicating with Tesla vehicles and switching entirely to CCS for v4 and converted v3 sites.
I know that is not the case at all, and I see now that my wording left open that possibility. I think we all understand that Tesla-branded superchargers will run multiple protocols over the same connector, while 3rd party providers will not have access to Tesla’s proprietary protocol and will therefore run CCS-only. If Tesla dropped their proprietary protocol, they would abandon hundreds of thousands of drivers with older cars that do not have CCS support (like mine).
“Tesla has long used the North American Charging Standard for its EV plugs”
False.
How so? I thought only the OG roadster used something other than NACS. And that was just a j1772.
NACS is the CCS protocol through the Tesla plug. It can support a passive adapter to charge non Tesla EVs. It is currently rolled out to the one or two dozen superchargers with Magic Dock and is included in the two v4 sites rolled out in Atlanta and Oregon (but has not been activated there, yet).
I will be performing the CCS upgrade on my 2020 Model 3 but will not buy the CCS adapter. That will make my car ready to use 3rd party charging stations once they have rolled out NACS plugs.
You are wrong. Here is what Tesla says about it. I would encourage you to stop spreading misinformation.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-standard
Okay, so how do you want to word it, then? Tesla and 3rd party providers could have employed any protocol with the open-sourced hardware, but they settled on CCS since that’s what nearly all non-Tesla EVs already use?
That’s up to the 3rd party providers. But NACS is not a communication protocol.
I’ve been staring at our exchange, and I finally understand why you were so adamant about your point. The way I worded my position implied that Tesla would be dropping their proprietary protocol when communicating with Tesla vehicles and switching entirely to CCS for v4 and converted v3 sites.
I know that is not the case at all, and I see now that my wording left open that possibility. I think we all understand that Tesla-branded superchargers will run multiple protocols over the same connector, while 3rd party providers will not have access to Tesla’s proprietary protocol and will therefore run CCS-only. If Tesla dropped their proprietary protocol, they would abandon hundreds of thousands of drivers with older cars that do not have CCS support (like mine).
Tesla disagrees with you https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-standard
“…Tesla’s Supercharging network has 60% more NACS posts than all the CCS-equipped networks combined.”
It says “plug” so true.
You can argue other parts and software, but the plug is compatible.