In general, I don’t mind driving EV cars, but man the lack of physical controls drives me nuts. I don’t know why every EV car designer just collectively agreed that physical buttons are a thing in the past and go all in that centre screen. It’s so counter intuitive. That is one major reason I went with the new Accord instead of getting an EV: the AC knobs. During night drive, the thee knobs have a ring of white light around them which make the interior look pretty cool. Also it’s super easy to control fan speed and temperature using the knobs. I’m interested in the upcoming VW ID7, but even the AIR VENTS are controlled with the screen, like WTF??? And I thought it’s dumb to open the glove box using the screen in Tesla.
I wasn’t sure if I’d be able to get used to the screen in my car, but it turns out it’s totally fine. I almost never touch the HVAC controls, and the audio stuff is pretty intuitive. However, that’s only my experience with it.
Can you do it without looking? I always have to take my eyes off the road for touch screens. I think it’s dangerous.
What’s the temperature at now?
I don’t know. Can’t look. Just spinning the wheel. We’ll find out soon.
🤣
Ok.
“Hey google set the temperature to 72”
The Toyota bZ5X has physical buttons all over but unfortunately you have to be a fighter jet pilot to figure out what they all do.
The reason for this is that a screen is cheaper and easier than all the buttons. I like it, but agree the screen needs a good gui to work.
Also, a lot of features are on the steering wheel so you don’t take your eyes off the road.
Yes
You held on to your blackberry until your carrier forced you to upgrade to a smarter phone with no qwerty physical keyboard did you?
I joke, i get where you’re coming from. I think the only things I would want as physical buttons is the heat/AC
And the radio and the handsfree phone. My E10X thankfully has such buttons on the steering wheel.
I’ve never felt that an AC knob in my Tesla would improve it. That’s so silly. As if it’s difficult to press up and down on the screen.
Of course. Tesla does have an AC knob now anyways. Can easily control it with the scroll wheel with the latest update.
As if it’s difficult to press up and down on the screen.
It is, if you’re in traffic, and the road is bumpy, and the sun just suddenly came out and it’s starting to roast you and you’ve got to get the temp down NOW or else OH MY GOD!!
It really is better to just lock your fingers on a physical knob you can twist while keeping your eyes on the road. I could never buy any car in which I couldn’t just flap the air vents shut instantly with a physical control.
Bad as it is in some ways, my Leaf has mostly physical controls and I love that
The sun just came out and my auto climate control system adjusted for it appropriately without my input. It stays at 21C regardless.
I had a Leaf. The Tesla is far better in every way. Though the Leaf is a perfectly nice vehicle in its own right.
And no, it’s not difficult to adjust the temperature on a Tesla. That’s absurd.
I agree completely, physical knobs allow you to make adjustments to HVA/C or radio ect without taking your eyes from the road. I also dislike the current trend of removing them.
The lack of a good PKB on decently specced smartphones is a travesty, and I’ll die on this hill.
Also, the lack of buttons in modern cars is even more of a bad move since you need to be able to operate radio and climate without taking your eyes off the road.
There is some hope though: https://slate.com/business/2023/04/cars-buttons-touch-screens-vw-porsche-nissan-hyundai.html
What’s a “PKB”? Why do you have to make up acronyms all the time?
Physical keyboard
not sure why you think screens are not in new ICE cars.
I drove a Genesis GV60 yesterday… You would LOVE it… SO MANY BUTTONS. I don’t know how many it needed, but there were 2x as many as needed.
I just switched from model 3 to gv60 and I’m loving all the buttons. Helps that they feel like high quality buttons. And it takes a bit to learn how everything works. But that’s because it offers so many features. But people who suck with technology might be intimidated by it.
We actually really liked the ride and experience. But, if it had 1/2 the buttons it has, would you think “it needs more?”
I can’t think of a single button that I wish was in a touchscreen menu instead.
BZ4X has buttons and it drives like a gas car so there’s even less change.
Still wouldn’t dream of buying one.
Shame it’s garbage in every other way
not all (or even most) EVs are that way.
Yes.
Yes, he’s the only one, makes sense
Mini EV (or any other model) has buttons/ switches.
Plenty of EV’s with tons of buttons. Did you just look at a Tesla and decide all EV’s are lacking buttons?
My Mercedes has physical buttons for the climate control, which you can also use the touchscreen as well to adjust. There’s no knobs though, but it’s not a terribly big deal as I leave it on auto anyways.
Does your Mercedes have one of those odd joystick dial things in the center? My mom’s Mercedes and my grandma’s Audi have the absolute worst physical interfaces; buttons are good for climate control, but touch screens would be better than what they have for almost all other features.
Nope. I have the mousepad looking thing with quick access to music controls. Although the newer Mercedes are moving into gesture controls.
Check out the genesis gv60.
My Mini Cooper SE has buttons.