What concept is that? Id sell all my organs for jt

meanwhile, California is banning new gas cars in 2035

I’m actually skeptical that could make that many in less than 7 years

This is what happens when you have a grifter nepo baby like Akihabara Toyoda running the company. “Self-charging hybrid” vehicles? Rigging crash tests? The guy just can’t stop lying. He tricked people into buying millions of dollars of scam car bundles and now they can only make 10k solid state batteries?

Tbh this is actually more good news than bad. Solid state battery tech - if it lives up to even 70% of the hype - is the shift in battery tech that actually makes ev’s realistic for a lot of the people yet to adopt them. 10k cars is nothing to sniff at and is a huge investment. It’s all very well to have prototypes in labs and concept cars, but it’s only once businesses start selling them to the public that the real investment and rapid development happens.

So yeah, you can’t all buy one next year, but it’s significant they can be bought

Didn’t we just get a bunch of reports that ev demand is way squishier than expected. Why not wait until form and supply chain are built out by your competitors and hold onto your profits?

Is the average Toyota buyer willing to pay 1.5x the price, the upfront capital for a home charger, and rely on a patchwork of charging stations?

I’m looking forward to retrofitting.

They will go under well before that. BYD and Tesla are taking over the global market at a rapid pace.

One EV can power 12 Toyota hybrids, and the latter is cheaper with longer range and easy infrastructure due to all the gas stations everywhere. You can charge when you can, but don’t have to. Their hybrids sell really well, and they already dumped billions in R&D, so makes sense they’re not going to abandon it.

This will be the continuing problem. Big battery EVs will be here, RSN (Real Soon Now). Always a moving target due to high expense, limits in lithium mining, lack of infrastructure, and the use of carbon fuel sources to generate electricity anyway. It only really makes sense for the small number of people who go all the way with solar and wind on their property, and battery packs in their garage for storage.

They could probably make 100K PHEVs with that. I don’t understand why don’t automakers do that. You can literally use it as an electric vehicle—a lighter one, at that—while in the city, and maybe fill it up 3-4 times a year for longer trips. Makes no sense to go full ev and have a huge pile of rare earth metals just adding weight to your car and almost never getting used.

Toyota has pushed back the mass production of its solid-state battery technology to 2030.
Previously, it was claimed that these batteries would power EVs with a range of 600 miles by 2027.
Initial production of these batteries will only power a small percentage of Toyota’s total production.
Toyota plans to launch its next generation of battery-powered cars by 2026, using liquid-based lithium-ion batteries.
These new cars are expected to offer over 497 miles of driving range.
Despite the delay in solid-state batteries, Toyota still aims to sell over three million EVs by 2030.

Every battery maker is developing solid states. Toyota makes it sound like they have it alone.

I have a feeling that Toyota is very politically fragmented. They must be a super calcified in their views with practically no new viewpoints and no real ambition to be cutting edge in any way. To be fair, I doubt that being “cutting edge” has ever been Toyota’s thing, but dragging their heels is pretty off-putting.

Honestly NMC as well as cobalt-free LFP batteries are already enough for this transition, range is good enough already, Norway has pretty much finished its transition to EVs, it’s mostly just up to governments in other countries to get things together at this point.

Solid-state batteries will never really become the end-all for EVs that it is hyped up to be, because EVs will be working out regardless of whether they actually scale up in a reasonable time frame or not.

lmao