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Before I joined, I spoke a lot with Declan Rice as well
Lol he was announced before Rice too. Dec really only wanted us
Would thought he talked to Jori or maybe Per first.
“At the training ground it’s like a big family – and this is a big factor to achieve great things.”
Maybe start with a goal from open play and we’ll take it from there Kai.
Goal? He doesn’t even have a shot on target from open play
You sure got him there, man.
Love the family vibes right here
Love the family vibes right here
Good to see he’s been integrated well because some of our fanbase and commentators haven’t been exactly encouraging
Well let’s not be blind to it, his performances haven’t been exactly encouraging either.
Think everyone wants him to succeed
That literally just sounds like the fan’s support for new players should be conditional and I don’t like that
Well it should be conditional, What are you on about? This isnt a marriage or a “family” no matter how much you want it to be. Its a top class football club not a social club and people like you need to realise this. If the players isnt good enough get them out.
If a player comes in and plays average at best and downright deplorable at worst then the fans have every right to not support him. Especially if this player is the highest paid on the team and might stop us from signing better players.
Before you try to strawman me for hating havertz, I dont. I just dont think that this guy is at the level of Arsenal Football club. Fans like me hold players to a higher standard and accountable because we havent been infested with the mediocrity mindset that most on this sub seem to have.
“Infested with mediocrity”
Please get a grip. I’m not interested in seeing people spam Havertz talk and shoehorn their disdain for him into every single thread that’s been happening recently.
I want him to get better too but would it kill people to just stfu if they have nothing nice to say?
Selected context from the News:
Kai featured regularly against us during his three years at Stamford Bridge. So, what were his first impressions of Arsenal?
“From outside, Arsenal always looked like a family,” he says. “That’s the feeling I got when playing. And when I joined, that was exactly what it was like, and the staff are really nice too – and that makes life easier for a new player.
“From the first minute that I spoke to Mikel about joining Arsenal, I had this feeling that he respects all of us very much, so that was also a big part of me joining the club. I just felt the togetherness of the club from the players and especially within the fans and the whole club.
“At the training ground it’s like a big family – and this is a big factor to achieve great things.”
Kai, who was a team-mate of Jorginho at Chelsea, has seen his integration into our first-team dressing room has been aided by no shortage of friendly faces.
“Before I joined, I spoke a lot with Declan Rice as well, who I know through Mason Mount,” he says. “For me it was very easy to come into the team because there are so many young players. I’ve played against a lot of them already so I know them from the pitch, and I have found it easy to make friends here. Hopefully it will continue like this.”
At one point, Chelsea having a midfield of Mount-Jorginho-Havertz-Rice looked like a realistic possibility.
Absolutely fucking wild that three of these blokes play for us now. Crazy, crazy 18 months.
Hopefully he feels the love from a bigger portion of the fanbase soon <3
Confirmed as a striker?
Idk what it is but I’m still convinced he’s gonna be an important player for us and I’m glad to see the club continuing to back him publicly. Fucking love the guy.
While I still think it was a mistake to buy him, I think he has a better chance of coming good at Arsenal than somewhere like United or Real. United is an extremely toxic club that would’ve shattered what little confidence Havertz has, while Real is the greatest club of all time and you have a very limited window to suceed there before someone better comes along.
At Arsenal I feel like there’s a perfect balance of competitiveness and familiarity that can help Kai realize his potential, if there is any. Arteta obviously sees something in him that I don’t, and he’s willing to give a lot of time to players he believes in, for better or worse.
I really hope Kai becomes good here, because if he fails, questions need to be asked about giving Chelsea 60m for a proven flop. I really hope Mikel can unlock his potential.
while Real is the greatest club of all time and you have a very limited window to suceed there before someone better comes along.
Why do you think Madrid are greatest club of all time? Why do you think City are dominating? Do they wait for an uncertain improvement in players? or do they go and get talent?
This is difference between serial winners and us. Real madrid have winning mentality, they dont just wait for a player they bought to " become good". If the player isnt performing they cut their losses and get a replacement.
The fact that you are saying Arsenal is the best place for Kai is showing you (although you dont realise it) that we are a mediocre club, in respect of the big clubs.
if he fails, questions need to be asked about giving Chelsea 60m for a proven flop
and those questions have to be balanced against everything else that those who made this decision have done.
Can’t imagine how some of today’s fanbase would react to Titi’s debut season with us.
Signed like half the revenue, big gamble. Exciting talent who made a big move and flopped badly. And scored what, only 1 league goal in 15 matches as a fucking striker? What a disaster of a signing.
Not saying Kai will turn out to be Henry 2.0. But Edu & Arteta have done good work so far. Let’s give it a little bit of time and get behind the lad.
Stop making Thierry Henry look worse than he really was, he had an amazing debut season
He started the season slow but in the end he scored 26 goals when he had moved to a new league, new country, and was playing in a new position
Its cause they have no other option other than to try to bring you into an emotional argument by naming our best player.
They arent even comparing like for like, Henry had 1 bad season in a different league but undoubtable talent in tangible skills such as pace, touch, finishing. Whereas Havertz, a CF/CAM, has had 3 bad seasons in the PL and hasnt shown any tangible skills. In fact he has shown he has no vision, no finishing and no aggression so fans now state he has great off ball movement and keeps it ticking along etc…
if he fails, questions need to be asked about giving Chelsea 60m for a proven flop
and those questions have to be balanced against everything else that those who made this decision have done.
I’d be shocked if he comes good after what I saw in the past 3 months. Imho questions already need to be asked if you look at the options that were available this summer for this kind of money - Palmer, Szoboszali, Maddison etc
Szoboszali is a massive boy hood Liverpool fan with a big Steven Gerrard tattoo on his arm, he was never going to anywhere other Liverpool. Palmer and Maddison play as creative 10s we already have Odegaard, Vieira and Smith Rowe as as creative midfielders so I don’t see the need another playmaker
I don’t think it’s helpful to compare players who were already in decent form and thus had little challenge in transitioning to their new clubs vs the utter sledgehammer that teams like Chelsea and United are to promising, developing players so that their next managers have to treat them like a build-a-bear project or Tin Man.
He seems to be happy here, and I love it!
I believe in him and I want him to succeed with us so much. I know that many goals and assists eventually will come.
Now put the “feelings” and “beliefs” aside, do we have any proof that this guy has the minerals to succeed in the Premier league?
Should have 3 more this year if Eddie, Reiss and Martinelli don’t bottled it, Kai help us beat city. Shit if he did that twice a season. Money well spent
Lol
try finding the goal m8
Just beautiful
Did he even submit a transfer request of force his price down?
We ñaid up the wazoo for very little g+a or progressive passing.
If he gets a bit lukier with some shots on target and goals i. A bit easier on him.
But his underlying numbers are trash
I really want him to succeed, seems such a nice guy, very talented and weirdly hated on
With you to the very end hermano ❤️
