https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sul0AyU8pQ8
Savagegeese drive the 992 Carrera T and debate whether it is exciting enough to justify the insane price tag. IMO it seems like a fantastic car but at $140-160k specced out it is robbery.
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I came to some similar conclusions after driving the previous 991.2 Carrera T. Nothing wrong with the car, but so competent that you need to be really leaning into it to start feeling something. Fairly different to some other earlier 911.
wasn’t T , the lighter and more barebone version of Base 911? why it’s so expensive?
I’m pretty sure most people or financially wealthy and successful enough to buy a brand new 911 don’t really care about the $140,000 price tag. They are really expensive, but one best sports cars that are still a little practical on the market. They sell extremely profitably for a reason.
I don’t care about the $140K price tag, but it’s annoying that if you option it decently you’re easily in the S or GTS range. Only reason I chose the T was because the S/GTS has waaaay too long of a waitlist and crazy ADMs.
The price is literally the only gripe I have with the car. You are in quite some territory at $160K.
But unfortunately for us, Porsche knows what they’ve got.
As a current owner of a 991.2 Carrera T, and having owned cars with more “theatre” like a Lotus Exige or Ariel Atom 2, I completely understand where Mark and Jack are coming from. But the longer I owned those other cars, the less I enjoyed them and the more excuses I had to make for them and their limitations. The longer I’ve had the T, the more fond of it I’ve become, to the point where it’s my favorite car I’ve ever owned or even driven. I’m as excited to drive it the next time as I was the first time.
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991.2 T PDK and 992 GTS MT here. Both cars are fantastic, and they have such different character. The T definitely feels more nimble, and it’s a lot easier to get more out of it on public roads. The GTS is fun due to the MT and it pulls hard. I’d say the T in a manual is probably a great option, but honestly when you’re at that high of a price, just upgrade. The GTS was 170 out the door brand new.
It seems insane to me how the moment you start to spec these out, they jump like, one Miata to one Mustang in price.
From the bare basics like parking cameras and cruise control to nicer things like rear axle steering and front axle lift, to the freaking leather interior, it’s all opt-in, and the least you could spec it to a good standard is like, 140k. Well optioned, it’s up to something like 160k.
At that point, you are talking like-new, or actually new, Lambo, McLaren, Aston Martin…
Honestly that’s my issue. I’ve never owned a porsche or anything, but based on how it’s always described it sounds like its just a generally great car, jack of all trades, etc…
And like Mark said, there are specific trims to get the thing you want. But if you want the theater and excitement, are you really wanting to spend 250k on GT3, or 300k for a turbo S, when you could be getting a huracan? Because those are exciting for sure, but they’re not winning that fight against a lambo.
Same with comfort, you could spec out a 911 to be ultra luxurious comfort… But you could also just get a maybach for the same price.
I don’t pretend money is meaningless to people who can afford these cars, but at these prices surely you’d prefer to maximize the thing you want the most, then maybe get a budget mid level BMW to cover the opposite end you care less for.
Some of us want a 911 more than those cars. Especially more than the British ones.
I need to know what/where these $160k new Lambo and McLarens are.
Autotrader USA doesn’t work on my country for some ungodly reason, but Autotrader UK had some 2018-2019 Hurracans for about that much, last I checked, with 5-20k miles on them.
I feel this one is a huge miss from Savagegeese and they really didn’t talk about the differences in the 911 lineup enough and give enough context to what the product placement is for the Carrera T version. Their format is also getting clinical for me - every review is mostly the same same and there’s a lack of excitement that I don’t feel they have a lot of passion for cars anymore much like many other reviewers.
Nick Murray’s shorter review from a few months back explains the 911 Carrera T so much better…
If I had the money for a 4th car, it would be a Carrera T OR if I only had enough money for 1 car…It would be the Carrera T and a winter beater.
I think there is a lot of overlap between the Carrera T and the 718 GTS.
For the GTS/T models you have to be careful not to overload with too many options.
I do like having a convertible, but I would gladly trade my Boxster GTS 4.0 for a Carrera T.
If you spec a Carrera T with 20+k in options or PDK you’ve ruined what makes the car good.
It’s funny, because he loved the Boxster GTS 4.0
I have no idea why you’d buy the stripped down version and then spec it to the max. Just get an S or GTS in that case. The dumb thing about this is that even for those purists who want cheap seats and plastic dash, it is certainly not cheap.
S has a 3 year waitlist + $20K and GTS has a 2 year waitlist +$30K ADM near me.
So went with the T instead for now
How is it robbery when it’s the greatest sports car made? This post basically regurgitates what the podcast said.