ICCU issues appear to be pretty much fixed (outside occasional fluke failures as you’d expect in any car). And I don’t think the average consumer cares about getting frequent OTAs as much as you think they do honestly. People should buy cars for what they have, not based on what they hope might be added later.
I agree. I can’t think of a problem in a car I’ve owned that an OTA would fix. I was worried I’d be missing out on my Leaf vs the Model 3, but in 5 years I’ve never missed having OTAs, things have been working fine.
Automatic OTA updates actually are a net negative for Teslas for me.
I don’t trust Musk’s company to not make things worse over some petty thing. Look what he did to Twitter.
If I buy a car, I want some assurance that its software will always be at least as well-designed as it was when I bought it. I don’t have that assurance with Tesla.
What happened to Twitter? I’ve been in it 10+ years and now I can edit typos? They fixed my one complaint/missing feature…
I’ve enjoyed it? What’s supposed to be getting worse?
Adding Apple Music was big for me. They let me customize where I put the video feed from the camera which annoyed me a lot, Joe Mode fucking rules with small kids, and FSD has gone from driving like a drunk scared teenager to being my default on anything over 20 miles.
People said the same thing about cell phones, and now I let my iPhone auto update at night (17.1.1 tonight!) and now I let my car patch at home. I can’t really think of any major regressions?
For me, it’s not about fixing issues. I really love the OTA updates on my Tesla more than I thought I would. I get an update about every 2 weeks for the past year I’ve owned it, and they very commonly include nice new features. It keeps things fresh and fun and prevents me from getting bored of the car.
That’s a good point. Many Tesla drivers want to have the latest and greatest tech so OTA updates probably serves that base well. Personally, I prefer a more boring car where nothing changes and my muscle memory and physical buttons keep things repetitive and easy.
My car just came with blind spot warning lights in the mirrors. They’ve worked flawlessly since 2019, didn’t need to wait for an OTA update. (Although I’m very glad Tesla added a solution for their cars).
And it’s going to remain that way at least until Audi PPE launches. Even then, the Q6 is a bit big.
Personally I’d be in the market for a car with the exterior dimensions of an A3 with the interior of an A4. I’m annoyed that it looks like I’ll have to wait for a long time.
Q4 is 5 inches wider and 4 inches longer than the A3.
Compared to the A4 it’s 3 inches wider but 4 inches shorter.
So it sorta fits in between the two, exterior dimension wise, if you don’t mind the extra width. And it’s got more functional interior space than an A4
e-GMP is clearly the best EV platform amongst legacy auto.
Once they fix all the ICCU issues and add OTA.
ICCU issues appear to be pretty much fixed (outside occasional fluke failures as you’d expect in any car). And I don’t think the average consumer cares about getting frequent OTAs as much as you think they do honestly. People should buy cars for what they have, not based on what they hope might be added later.
Feature OTAs are good but far from necessary.
I agree. I can’t think of a problem in a car I’ve owned that an OTA would fix. I was worried I’d be missing out on my Leaf vs the Model 3, but in 5 years I’ve never missed having OTAs, things have been working fine.
Automatic OTA updates actually are a net negative for Teslas for me.
I don’t trust Musk’s company to not make things worse over some petty thing. Look what he did to Twitter.
If I buy a car, I want some assurance that its software will always be at least as well-designed as it was when I bought it. I don’t have that assurance with Tesla.
What happened to Twitter? I’ve been in it 10+ years and now I can edit typos? They fixed my one complaint/missing feature…
I’ve enjoyed it? What’s supposed to be getting worse?
Adding Apple Music was big for me. They let me customize where I put the video feed from the camera which annoyed me a lot, Joe Mode fucking rules with small kids, and FSD has gone from driving like a drunk scared teenager to being my default on anything over 20 miles.
People said the same thing about cell phones, and now I let my iPhone auto update at night (17.1.1 tonight!) and now I let my car patch at home. I can’t really think of any major regressions?
For me, it’s not about fixing issues. I really love the OTA updates on my Tesla more than I thought I would. I get an update about every 2 weeks for the past year I’ve owned it, and they very commonly include nice new features. It keeps things fresh and fun and prevents me from getting bored of the car.
That’s a good point. Many Tesla drivers want to have the latest and greatest tech so OTA updates probably serves that base well. Personally, I prefer a more boring car where nothing changes and my muscle memory and physical buttons keep things repetitive and easy.
OTA added camera view when activating the turn signal on my model y
I really appreciated that
My car just came with blind spot warning lights in the mirrors. They’ve worked flawlessly since 2019, didn’t need to wait for an OTA update. (Although I’m very glad Tesla added a solution for their cars).
They have done really well with it, and it’s supporting three brands with Genesis included. Great investment
And it’s going to remain that way at least until Audi PPE launches. Even then, the Q6 is a bit big.
Personally I’d be in the market for a car with the exterior dimensions of an A3 with the interior of an A4. I’m annoyed that it looks like I’ll have to wait for a long time.
Q4 is 5 inches wider and 4 inches longer than the A3.
Compared to the A4 it’s 3 inches wider but 4 inches shorter.
So it sorta fits in between the two, exterior dimension wise, if you don’t mind the extra width. And it’s got more functional interior space than an A4
MEB platform is straight up ass.