Ive seen reports Leicester, Burnley and Leeds are reportedly planning on sueing Everton.
Now seeing West ham Got sued by Sheffield UTD for Tevez, is there a strong possibility Everton could be actually sued and those teams win a court case?
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I don’t think so , West Ham literally cheated to stay up , I don’t remember if the league punished them much
They settled with Sheffield United out of court, £20m was widely reported to be the amount paid.
For what, for building a stadium which doesn’t effect them in the slightest?
For spending too much on players, thus breaching regulations, which helped keep them up at other teams expense.
Sigurdsson (our record signing) sure didn’t do much to keep us up.
100% they will be sued. If they lose or not is totally up in the air.
It’s sour grapes and honestly very embarrassing for the three clubs.
They were relegated because they played like crap all season not because Everton overspent.
About nil. What case have leeds got, they would have been relegated regardless? And PL rules are very clear that the clubs cannot sue other clubs, instead they can only get awards from the independent commission in a case like this. The only case they would have is if they could prove the commission was corrupt and didnt follow the rules. How would this look in court:
“Your honor, we are suing because the authority we agreed to under the rules we signed up for punished the club in the way the rules said they were to be punished, but we dont like it because we wish we had more money”
That would be fun. Also in the unlikely event that City get punished could they be sued by everyone who missed out on titles, cups, CL football
It would be a true popcorn moment.
City would be looking at hundreds of millions, if not billions of damages. Imagine if City had pushed you down a spot and you lost £1m a season, that’s 20 clubs X £1m per year. That’s before relegation, missing out on European football, TV money/competition prize money. Even if City settled, it would push them into financial oblivion and probably administration - if FFP hasn’t already.
City have to win, losing even small will destroy them.
It’s hard to put an exact number on the value of being in CL, but it’s easily 10s of millions, more depending on how far you go. For the last 13 seasons, they’ve qualified for the CL, thereby pushing another team out. You’ve got to be looking at £500m in liability there.
That’s all with the massive caveat that a court has to find this sort of suit to actually be viable. It’s a difficult case to make, and I wouldn’t want to go up against City’s legal team.
Everton did nothing wrong they can’t sue, this is a sham. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12763871/Everton-Man-City-Premier-League.html
Got a trustworthy source for that anywhere?
I think they’ll have to settle and pay a fair chunk to each club which is going to screw them even more. If they do get relegated they’re going to be in a really bad situation!
I read the commission report pretty sure its stated that this wasn’t a deliberate accounting error(fraud) and that they didn’t get any onfield sporting advantage
So if they sue I’d imagine that report will be evidence
Whilst not being able to quantify the extent of the sporting advantage, the IC recognised that one “must be inferred”.
“sporting advantage will have been enjoyed for each of the seasons on which the PSR calculation was based – in this case, because of Covid, four seasons”
While they accept Everton’s breach was not deliberate but that is likely irrelevant for compensation purposes where the sporting advantage and causation is established.
A theoretical sporting advantage of £20m over three seasons, that £20m being for expenses related to a stadium which is still under construction.
That really feels like the reason Leeds et al were relegated.
Do you know why anything for the stadium counted? I thought it would all start being depreciated once in use so would have no effect or is there a specific reason £20m counted towards the figure?
Suing them for what?
Bringing in players in a way outside the FFP rules, resulting in an unfair advantage over teams that were relegated. The idea would be to sue for the presumed lost revenue of not being in the PL.
Didn’t you get fined for breaching FFP when you got promoted? Over the threshold by £13m so not too dissimilar. Maybe the other clubs in the championship should have sued you.
Bringing in players in a way outside the FFP rules, resulting in an unfair advantage over teams that were relegated
Yeah, so that’s not it. We have the third lowest net spend the past 5 years (only luton and brighton are lower). It’s the stadium costs that put us out of compliance.
Spending 20 mil on a stadium we couldn’t afford, apparently us building the stadium relegated them.
I thought infrastructure costs such as stadium renovation/building wasn’t part of the FFP calculation?
Counter point, not accounting for that 20mil you spent on the stadium surely meant you freed up 20 mil to spend on players beyond the constraints of ffp? When Spurs were building their stadium they had multiple windows where they spent very low if not at all. The team degraded during this time.
Siuuuuuuued
You’re next, and this is like a drop in the water compared to the tsunami coming for City lol
I read they actually can’t sue, but they can present compensation demands through a process set up by the PL that the clubs signed in to use in any situation like this.
I’m not sure why Leicester would sue Everton - it’s not Everton’s fault it took this long for the penalty to be assessed.
If the Premier League had got this done in a sensible amount of time then Everton would have been relegated last season or the one before - so surely it would be the league itself that was culpable rather than Everton?
Not sure how it could have been done any quicker. This is in relation to the season ending 2022, the accounts were submitted in March 2023. They referred them to the commission almost immediately.
Apparently: The Premier League had asked for an expedited hearing to conclude the hearing before the end of last season only for that to be deemed “unrealistic” by the commission.
This is still pretty damn quick if you ask me.
Not likely. Very tough to prove causation
It’s a civil suit. They just have to show that it is more likely than not that Everton overspending in players would have had an impact
They should be compensated in some way. There needs to be more clear disciplinary sanctions though.